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Old 14-07-2007, 02:18 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The Sedgefield by-election is make or break for the BNP considering the lacklustre results from the local elections this year.
I'm not convinced they were that poor. It is true they were unable to come first place, and barely managed to hold their own, but they came second and third in alot of new areas - look at Thurrock for example. They were getting ten percent in places they had never canvassed and never stood in before. Also Labour and the Libs were alot more mobilised, often standing down to let the other party have an easier victory. It looked like the momentum of the BNP was stopped, but I think a closer look tells a different story.
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Old 14-07-2007, 05:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re-the above posts. Its seems it's technicalities separating the three parties ED, UKIP, BNP! . These minor points can & SHOULD be overcome to enable one candidate in the Mayoral election, standing on an independent United Kingdom ticket, with an English Assembley proposal & strong immigration / voluntary repatriation policy, then seats are there to be won. If the three parties fight it out then the Greens & Respect take the seats. Lets get together now & not cut each others throats. Who ever comes top in the Sedgefield by-election where the 3 are all fighting each other, should be the party to fight the Mayoral challenge backed by the other two parties.
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Old 14-07-2007, 07:17 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Nonsense A66. The BNP are an overtly racist party, UKIP do not discourage a multi racial and multi faith society.
The BNP have awful policies on deporting foreigners. Not many people would be able to put many hairs between the BNP and the Nazis.

The EDP are really of no significance with their 0 representation.
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Re-the above posts. Its seems it's technicalities separating the three parties ED, UKIP, BNP! . These minor points can & SHOULD be overcome to enable one candidate in the Mayoral election, standing on an independent United Kingdom ticket, with an English Assembley proposal & strong immigration / voluntary repatriation policy, then seats are there to be won. If the three parties fight it out then the Greens & Respect take the seats. Lets get together now & not cut each others throats. Who ever comes top in the Sedgefield by-election where the 3 are all fighting each other, should be the party to fight the Mayoral challenge backed by the other two parties.
The big problem with that of course is that the poor image of the BNP would mar the other two parties forever. I don't blame them for not wanting that.
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Maybe not, but we should discourage segregation (official or otherwise) and prevent the fragmentation of British society.
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Maybe not, but we should discourage segregation (official or otherwise) and prevent the fragmentation of British society.
People say I'm misguided, but if you really believe that everyone is suddenly going to get along and live happily ever after, then I'm happy to be so misguided in thinking that there isn't a chance in hell of that ever happening. No, not even with the strong arm tactics of Labour who want to start integrating schools, and who plan to bring the joys of multiculturalism to a purpose built council estate in a middle class town near you! Enjoy your integration! There'll be civil war, just as Enoch said there would be.
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Maybe not, but we should discourage segregation (official or otherwise) and prevent the fragmentation of British society.
Definitely. Multi racial and multi fath does not mean we cannot share culture.

Basically we should say, this is how we live and work in our communities. Participate and enjoy or the door is closed.
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The big problem with that of course is that the poor image of the BNP would mar the other two parties forever. I don't blame them for not wanting that.
Different parties will be subjected to slightly different imagery by their Mainstream opponents.
Not "Thuggery and violent racism" for UKIP; for them it's "Fruitcakes and closet racists".
I'm not sure UKIPPERS enjoy that exactly.
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Different parties will be subjected to slightly different imagery by their Mainstream opponents.
Not "Thuggery and violent racism" for UKIP; for them it's "Fruitcakes and closet racists".
I'm not sure UKIPPERS enjoy that exactly.
When I think of UKIPers, I think of older gentlemen with tight-fitting blue suits and old-fashioned ties. Yes, maybe we should all put the needs of our country in this urgent hour first, rather than worrying about what the Labour and Conservative traitors think of us.
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When I think of UKIPers, I think of older gentlemen with tight-fitting blue suits and old-fashioned ties. Yes, maybe we should all put the needs of our country in this urgent hour first, rather than worrying about what the Labour and Conservative traitors think of us.
I agree.
I have never been able to comprehend why some of those who sit outside the Mainstream viewpoint are worrying constantly about what their bitterest enemies are going to say about them.

UKIP aims to withdaw the UK from the EU.
They will NEVER get approval from the ruling elite; whether it's the Politicians, the Media; or anyone else who benefits from the current arrangement.
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