What our new Home Secretary said about ID cards

eublues · 30-06-2007, 09:43 PM

What our new Home Secretary said about ID cards on her website:

http://www.jacquismithmp.co.uk/3a3de...7-bae6511eb03f

The National Identity Card scheme came back into the news this week. Its predicted costs for the first ten years of operation remain in line with initial estimates.

When I asked Redditch people what they thought of ID cards they were overwhelmingly in favour. I am not surprised. ID cards will help prove eligibility to work and provide the vast majority of legitimate employers with a simple, secure means of checking entitlement to work. Our borders will have the added protection they need from those seeking to enter the UK illegally and abuse free public services. ID cards will give us a powerful tool to combat identity fraud which underpins organised crime, terrorism and abuse of the immigration system.

Human rights lawyers and the Conservatives (who oppose ID cards) should remember that the human rights of the victims of ID fraud, job seekers who lose out to illegal workers and the victims of terrorism must not be forgotten. In the balancing act of human rights - I know whose side I am on – those that obey the law and play by the rules! They deserve the protection offered by ID cards.

Westcountryman · 30-06-2007, 10:53 PM

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When I asked Redditch people what they thought of ID cards they were overwhelmingly in favour.

Who the **** was she asking? :x

Aardvark · 30-06-2007, 11:04 PM

If our borders were secure there would be no illegal workers here anyway.

pentameter · 30-06-2007, 11:44 PM

Given this government's record on huge IT projects, it's a sad thing that they've got no more sense than to go in for the biggest, most complex and disaster prone of all.
Not to say dangerous. I wonder if she has the slightest inkling of where this might go.

g hall · 01-07-2007, 09:36 AM

I've worked out why government and this one in particular like big IT projects it's because that get to talk to Bill Gates and can then pick up "cool"

Yeah what a load of ******** anyone seriously in IT knows MS are the biggest bunch of useless developers on the planet now their marketing is very good

Britannist · 01-07-2007, 01:55 PM

A couple of weeks ago the Immigration Minister, Liam Byrne MP, said "ID cards are going to become a great British institution."

He is even more out-of-touch with the views of the people than I thought he was.

ID cards (and the ID card database) are not going to become a "great British institution". They are going to become hated - for their intrusion and for their cost.

They are not even British - if Byrne had used the words "european institution" he would have at least got one thing right. For they will, of course, become EU ID cards.

arden forester · 01-07-2007, 11:32 PM

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Who the f*** was she asking?

Her bathroom mirror! :shock: I doubt she asked anybody normal, just a few CLP plonkers! :roll:

Westcountryman · 01-07-2007, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by arden forester

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Who the f*** was she asking?

Her bathroom mirror! :shock: I doubt she asked anybody normal, just a few CLP plonkers! :roll:

My thoughts exactly! :shock:

30-06-2007, 09:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
eublues Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,122	What our new Home Secretary said about ID cards What our new Home Secretary said about ID cards on her website: http://www.jacquismithmp.co.uk/3a3de...7-bae6511eb03f The National Identity Card scheme came back into the news this week. Its predicted costs for the first ten years of operation remain in line with initial estimates. When I asked Redditch people what they thought of ID cards they were overwhelmingly in favour. I am not surprised. ID cards will help prove eligibility to work and provide the vast majority of legitimate employers with a simple, secure means of checking entitlement to work. Our borders will have the added protection they need from those seeking to enter the UK illegally and abuse free public services. ID cards will give us a powerful tool to combat identity fraud which underpins organised crime, terrorism and abuse of the immigration system. Human rights lawyers and the Conservatives (who oppose ID cards) should remember that the human rights of the victims of ID fraud, job seekers who lose out to illegal workers and the victims of terrorism must not be forgotten. In the balancing act of human rights - I know whose side I am on – those that obey the law and play by the rules! They deserve the protection offered by ID cards.

01-07-2007, 09:36 AM	#5 (permalink)
g hall Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: erewhon Posts: 5,606	I've worked out why government and this one in particular like big IT projects it's because that get to talk to Bill Gates and can then pick up "cool" Yeah what a load of ******** anyone seriously in IT knows MS are the biggest bunch of useless developers on the planet now their marketing is very good __________________ "That government is best which governs least." "This is a sharp Medicine, but it is a Physician for all diseases and miseries". "To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy --and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful." TANSTAAFL TANJ

01-07-2007, 01:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	ID cards, Liam Byrne MP, British institution claim A couple of weeks ago the Immigration Minister, Liam Byrne MP, said "ID cards are going to become a great British institution." He is even more out-of-touch with the views of the people than I thought he was. ID cards (and the ID card database) are not going to become a "great British institution". They are going to become hated - for their intrusion and for their cost. They are not even British - if Byrne had used the words "european institution" he would have at least got one thing right. For they will, of course, become EU ID cards.

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30-06-2007, 11:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,976	If our borders were secure there would be no illegal workers here anyway.

30-06-2007, 11:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
pentameter Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 310	Given this government's record on huge IT projects, it's a sad thing that they've got no more sense than to go in for the biggest, most complex and disaster prone of all. Not to say dangerous. I wonder if she has the slightest inkling of where this might go.