Oldest MP in the House of Commons dies

arden forester · 20-06-2007, 04:56 PM

He used to sit it the same seat, just like Grocer Heath and Dennis Skinner. Tony Blair seemed not to understand any question Pira asked a PMQs, possibly due to Pira's heavy accent. Not unheard of. Scottish MPs have appeared unintelligible to English MPs!

This is a seat with a heavy Indian rather than Pakistani background. Could the BNP put up an Indian so that we can be sure of their new-found pro-Hindu beliefs? :wink: It would also unsettle the powers-that-be! :roll:

Oh, what a fantasist I am!

Britannist · 20-06-2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by arden forester

Tony Blair seemed not to understand any question Pira asked a PMQs

Nor most of the questions asked him by other MPs :wink: .

arden forester · 20-06-2007, 06:14 PM

The Liberal Democrats shot up 14.4% at the 2005 election. This would make them seen as the challenger party.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/html/217.stm
However, the Labour support has appeared flaky over the years. Piara Khabra lost quite a lot of his vote when four Independents stood against him in 2001. UKIP failed miserably 10 years ago, but that was 10 years ago! If this time UKIP put up a candidate more suited to the electorate, then there are votes to be had.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sta...encies/217.stm

Britannist · 20-06-2007, 08:48 PM

Interesting.

I suspect that most of the increase in the Liberal Dim party vote last time (in the Ealing Southall constituency and elsewhere for that matter) was due to anti-Iraq 'war' protest voters defecting (to the Liberal Dims) from Labour.

If Labour and the Conservatives run an efficient campaign at Southall (in the Parliamentary By-Election) I would expect that the vote for the europhile Liberal Dims would (hopefully) fall.

jp · 20-06-2007, 08:57 PM

What's the likelihood of UKIP putting up a candidate?

mkpdavies · 20-06-2007, 09:53 PM

I can hardly contain my indifference.

If UKIP bother to run (I doubt UKIP are uber strong in this area), then the party should use it as a chance to get media coverage that makes UKIP look good for a change.

Independent UKIP · 20-06-2007, 09:59 PM

I would be a bit surprised if there is a UKIP candidate. There was only 1 UKIP candidate in last years local elections & he didn't get a great many votes (though a few more than in 2002). The ward was Southfield but I don't know if it is within Ealing Southall.

There will be votes to be had but not too many I would think. I would doubt that UKIP will be willing to spend a load of money in a seat where UKIP is not likely to do well; & I don't think there is any serious prospect of beating one of the big 3 here which is a mark of success that I consider.

Hereward77 · 20-06-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

If Labour and the Conservatives run an efficient campaign at Southall (in the Parliamentary By-Election) I would expect that the vote for the europhile Liberal Dims would (hopefully) fall.

So Labour and the Tories are not europhiles? :roll:

ryansoton · 21-06-2007, 12:00 AM

Labours candidate will be selected from an all womens short-list.

I wonder if there will be a Blanau Gwent style break away.

This will also be Gordan Browns first test as PM.

I predict a Lib Dem win.

Alex McKee · 21-06-2007, 12:14 AM

I had heard of him, but only once before.

UKIP ought to stand, but there's no need to put a huge campaign in place. We should simply stand a candidate and put out a leaflet to each house. No need to spend a fortune.

20-06-2007, 04:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
arden forester Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Solihull, in The Forest of Arden, Warwickshire! Posts: 2,651 Party: None	He used to sit it the same seat, just like Grocer Heath and Dennis Skinner. Tony Blair seemed not to understand any question Pira asked a PMQs, possibly due to Pira's heavy accent. Not unheard of. Scottish MPs have appeared unintelligible to English MPs! This is a seat with a heavy Indian rather than Pakistani background. Could the BNP put up an Indian so that we can be sure of their new-found pro-Hindu beliefs? :wink: It would also unsettle the powers-that-be! :roll: Oh, what a fantasist I am! __________________ www.westminster-whispers.blogspot.com

20-06-2007, 08:48 PM	#14 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	Ealing Southall, Liberal Dims, Parliamentary By-Election Interesting. I suspect that most of the increase in the Liberal Dim party vote last time (in the Ealing Southall constituency and elsewhere for that matter) was due to anti-Iraq 'war' protest voters defecting (to the Liberal Dims) from Labour. If Labour and the Conservatives run an efficient campaign at Southall (in the Parliamentary By-Election) I would expect that the vote for the europhile Liberal Dims would (hopefully) fall.

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mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	I can hardly contain my indifference. If UKIP bother to run (I doubt UKIP are uber strong in this area), then the party should use it as a chance to get media coverage that makes UKIP look good for a change. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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20-06-2007, 06:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
arden forester Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Solihull, in The Forest of Arden, Warwickshire! Posts: 2,651 Party: None	The Liberal Democrats shot up 14.4% at the 2005 election. This would make them seen as the challenger party. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/html/217.stm However, the Labour support has appeared flaky over the years. Piara Khabra lost quite a lot of his vote when four Independents stood against him in 2001. UKIP failed miserably 10 years ago, but that was 10 years ago! If this time UKIP put up a candidate more suited to the electorate, then there are votes to be had. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sta...encies/217.stm

20-06-2007, 08:57 PM	#15 (permalink)
jp Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,000	What's the likelihood of UKIP putting up a candidate?

20-06-2007, 09:59 PM	#17 (permalink)
Independent UKIP Uber Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: London Posts: 2,227	I would be a bit surprised if there is a UKIP candidate. There was only 1 UKIP candidate in last years local elections & he didn't get a great many votes (though a few more than in 2002). The ward was Southfield but I don't know if it is within Ealing Southall. There will be votes to be had but not too many I would think. I would doubt that UKIP will be willing to spend a load of money in a seat where UKIP is not likely to do well; & I don't think there is any serious prospect of beating one of the big 3 here which is a mark of success that I consider.

21-06-2007, 12:00 AM	#19 (permalink)
ryansoton Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Southampton Posts: 749 Party: Other	Labours candidate will be selected from an all womens short-list. I wonder if there will be a Blanau Gwent style break away. This will also be Gordan Browns first test as PM. I predict a Lib Dem win.

21-06-2007, 12:14 AM	#20 (permalink)
Alex McKee Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gloucester Posts: 6,634	I had heard of him, but only once before. UKIP ought to stand, but there's no need to put a huge campaign in place. We should simply stand a candidate and put out a leaflet to each house. No need to spend a fortune.