Shock new report: nuclear power station possible sites named

blank_frackis · 24-05-2007, 08:30 PM

I think wind turbines are a better private option, I don't see how the margins fit using them as a significant part of our total energy use. A few people in my area use them on their own land and I think that should be encouraged. From the limited discussions I've had with them it certainly seems to be economical at the individual level, much in the same way that some people use solar power to reduce electricity costs in other countries.

Smidgey · 24-05-2007, 09:08 PM

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I agree. Wind turbines are ugly and are only being built to try to meet this target the EU has set up for 'renewable' energy.

I like the idea of tidal power, hydro-power and solar power. But not wind turbines. The blades of these awful wind turbine eyesores also kill rare birds.

Apart from the fact that most wind turbines are not working for at least 70% of the time, much of the small amount of power they do produce is lost in transmission through long cables across the Scottish countryside. Cables being carried by ugly new pylons being placed on previously unspoilt scenic land.

Agree 100%

Besoeker · 24-05-2007, 09:23 PM

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In other words, England gets the disadvantages of having the new nuclear power stations

Why is it a disadvantage?

Besoeker · 24-05-2007, 09:31 PM

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Apart from the fact that most wind turbines are not working for at least 70% of the time,

You keep saying that.
It is simply not correct.

Clippo · 24-05-2007, 10:57 PM

A few facts I have gleaned from some of the press coverage (both the Telegraph in the following) of the Nuclear announcement is:-

' the UK has no nuclear reactor design capability and will therefore have to buy technology from either or all the USA, France or Japan (Westinghouse was apparently bought by Toshiba last year)'
&
France's EDF, which operates London Electricity and Germany's E.ON who own Powergen & RWE, are salivating at the prospect of future profits in Britain.!!

Not much home profit there then. Can we sink any lower in technological expertise & business ?

Britannist · 24-05-2007, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Besoeker

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Originally Posted by Britannist

Apart from the fact that most wind turbines are not working for at least 70% of the time,

You keep saying that.
It is simply not correct.

You keep saying it is not correct.

It is correct.

Britannist · 24-05-2007, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Smidgey

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Originally Posted by Britannist

I agree. Wind turbines are ugly and are only being built to try to meet this target the EU has set up for 'renewable' energy.

I like the idea of tidal power, hydro-power and solar power. But not wind turbines. The blades of these awful wind turbine eyesores also kill rare birds.

Apart from the fact that most wind turbines are not working for at least 70% of the time, much of the small amount of power they do produce is lost in transmission through long cables across the Scottish countryside. Cables being carried by ugly new pylons being placed on previously unspoilt scenic land.

Agree 100%

Thank you for your agreement, Smidgey.

I suspect that most of the people saying how wonderful wind turbines are would soon change their tune if their local council agreed with them and said that it was going to build a few behind their house.

Britannist · 24-05-2007, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Besoeker

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In other words, England gets the disadvantages of having the new nuclear power stations

Why is it a disadvantage?

For the same reasons that you might find it a 'disadvantage' to have one built behind your house.

Britannist · 24-05-2007, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Clippo

A few facts I have gleaned from some of the press coverage (both the Telegraph in the following) of the Nuclear announcement is:-' the UK has no nuclear reactor design capability and will therefore have to buy technology from either or all the USA, France or Japan (Westinghouse was apparently bought by Toshiba last year)'
& France's EDF, which operates London Electricity and Germany's E.ON who own Powergen & RWE, are salivating at the prospect of future profits in Britain.!! Not much home profit there then. Can we sink any lower in technological expertise & business ?

We do have the nuclear expertise to build the new nuclear power stations ourselves. Claims in certain newspapers that we do not have were speculation.

I understand that the UK has to consider bids (to build the next generation of nuclear power stations in the UK) from european continental companies because of EU rules which state that contracts must be advertised in all EU member states.

blank_frackis · 25-05-2007, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

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Originally Posted by Besoeker

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Originally Posted by Britannist

Apart from the fact that most wind turbines are not working for at least 70% of the time,

You keep saying that.
It is simply not correct.

You keep saying it is not correct.

It is correct.

Besoeker is correct, you're obviously referring to rated capacity, they only produce their rated capacity about 30% of the time, but that doesn't mean they only generate electricity 30% of the time. It's an easy mistake to make.

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24-05-2007, 10:57 PM	#25 (permalink)
Clippo Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Cheshire Posts: 2,273	A few facts I have gleaned from some of the press coverage (both the Telegraph in the following) of the Nuclear announcement is:- ' the UK has no nuclear reactor design capability and will therefore have to buy technology from either or all the USA, France or Japan (Westinghouse was apparently bought by Toshiba last year)' & France's EDF, which operates London Electricity and Germany's E.ON who own Powergen & RWE, are salivating at the prospect of future profits in Britain.!! Not much home profit there then. Can we sink any lower in technological expertise & business ?