rjt

Those who participate in trying to remove faith schools from the state sector or even abolish them altogehther are particpating along with the Lab/Con/Lib Dem coalition in a step by step attack on Christians and thier beleifs with the aim of silencing christainity as a force in this country.

I predict that eventtually they will succeed but I predict that christians like myself will be the best second place this country has ever seen.

Britannist

Yes, the aim is to push Christianity to the fringes.

Blair should be expelled from the Anglican Church for his role in this. And the Roman Catholic Church (RC) should make it clear he is not welcome as a member (following recent press reports that he is thinking of joining the RC faith).

If Christians of all faiths unite, we can stop this campaign of the Christianophobes to destroy our great religion.

TonyG

He announced that about six years ago, just before the 2001 election, he still hasn't done it, he was just trying to garner RC votes.

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Britannist

Yes, and I wish Roman Catholic people would not vote for that party (nor people from any other Christian faith or religion for that matter).

Labour cares little about Christianity. Indeed, it has never done anything to help the Christian faith - but it has certainly gone out of its way to do things which have harmed it.

arden forester

Personally, I think CofE schools are more concerned with the curriculum than ethos and the RC schools more attached to ethos with the curriculum a close second!

By the way, britannist, not wishing to be a pedant, but "people from any other Christian faith" is not exactly right. It is the Christian Faith, as opposed to Muslim faith,etc, but people fall into denominations. All mainstream Christians follow the creeds and early church doctrines. The Roman Catholic Church of course (as you know) speaks of "other Christian communities" but through bilateral meetings, seeks unity of purpose if not immediate organic unity.

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Smidgey

You all have the right to attend whatever school you wish. This is not what I am denying to you. I am merely saying that you should not have the right to force me to pay taxes to prop up anyone else's religion.

I'm not seeking to abolish religious schools. I don't care if a private company wishes to set up a school that parents want to send their children to. What I do care about is the fact that people like you are forcing me to pay for your religion.

Perhaps you would like it if I got the government to threaten you with jail time if you did not pay an atheism tax?

Nice straw-man... You tarnish all secularists with the same brush. Just because I don't want my taxes paying for your religion does not mean I want your religion destroyed, it does not mean I want your children not to have choice. The funny thing is, if there were no such thing as private schools then I would be restricted myself to exactly the same choice as you are. However, private schooling is the way forward if you wish to have a religious education. I don't want my taxes paying for that, thank you very much.

rjt

Why should I not expect taxes to go towards paying for faith schools? I am quite prepared for them to go towards non faith schools just as you appear willing for me to pay for them.

Just asking for a fair deal with plenty of choice in the system, no one should seek to deny me the right to choose my kids education if they want that choice for themselves, why should faith schools only be availble in the private sector, non faith ones are not.

Smidgey

Because they are promoting religion. It is like asking the public sector to pay to promote Coca Cola...

Do you think the government should also fund scientology schools, creationist schools, muslim schools, hindu schools and schools for every single possible aspect of the market?

You should realise that our public sector does not work in the same way as capitalism.

Just a thought RJT:

You get angry when England gives more money to Scotland (and I don't blame you). Turn this position around and you will understand how I feel when my money is used to support your religion.

rjt

Thats fine other non faith schools are promoting secualrism, thats like promoting syphillis to me so why should I fund it.

There are millions of people in this couintry who decalre themselves to be christians, they have the right to choose whether they want christianity to be part of their childs education.

There is also the question of educational standards, if these schools are doing a good job why remove them, are you in favour of lowering educational standards?

Britannist

Yes - sorry about that, Arden. I meant to write denominations.