BBC still as biased as ever

mkpdavies · 01-01-2007, 09:54 AM

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Still 100% focus on the old Troika and ignoring the rise of others completely.

How much longer can they just ignore parties that have now overtaken the Lib Dems in polls.

I'm not expecting equal coverage, but totally pretending they don't exist simply does not make this a review of politics at all. It is an effort to keep the same rigged shell game going.

I hope the people are beginning to realise this.

andypandy · 01-01-2007, 10:50 AM

They will not recognise the 'others' until joe public actually elect 'others' into serious political positions of power in Westminster and increasingly in local council areas where they actually start to either run or influence council decisions.

Not in the joke shop of the European gravy train, which is the only place that UKIP have successfully penetrated, no doubt as an allowance to keep the anti-eu masses 'quiet' and 'content'.

mkpdavies · 01-01-2007, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by andypandy

They will not recognise the 'others' until joe public actually elect 'others' into serious political positions of power in Westminster and increasingly in local council areas where they actually start to either run or influence council decisions.

Not in the joke shop of the European gravy train, which is the only place that UKIP have successfully penetrated, no doubt as an allowance to keep the anti-eu masses 'quiet' and 'content'.

Who decides that is the criteria for politics in the media. I understand one of your core missions is to attack UKIP in every post going, but this is getting a bit desperate now.

If the BBC et al treated the EU parliament as a joke, then I would have some sympathy with this warped view, but it doesn't.

I even believe the party you pretend not to support should get some coverage in a review of a politcal year. I find it very odd that you would pedal the same excuse for ignoring almost every other strand of politics, using the excuse that those elected in Westminster 2 years ago are the only ones worth talking about.

andypandy · 01-01-2007, 11:14 AM

In terms of the position of this country as it exists, Westminster IS the only election worth bothering about. The EU parliament is nothing more than a financial gravy train where not a single bit of good is or ever has been achieved by any so-called anti-EU candidates.

As for attacking UKIP, why not? This is NOT a UKIP site nor has the party itself any connection to it. UKIP is largely made up of ex-tories that milked the pro-EU-single European Act Thatcher era for all its worth and now in the halcyon days of their near or actual retirement, actually believe they have both the mental and physical capacities to change things. They are largely hypocrites and johny-come-latelys that have produced little of worth in the fight against the EU and will ultimately contribute little to the final outcome.

Within 20 years most of you wil be as dead as ducks, and the fight will be left to those that were against the common market from their earliest days and actively campaigned against it from their teens onwards.

mkpdavies · 01-01-2007, 11:26 AM

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In terms of the position of this country as it exists, Westminster IS the only election worth bothering about. The EU parliament is nothing more than a financial gravy train where not a single bit of good is or ever has been achieved by any so-called anti-EU candidates.

False argument. The media do not portray this as being the case, indeed the BBC think the EU is brilliant. This is about the media and the way they cover politics, but you want to turn it into an attack on UKIP, but this time you just look foolish.

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As for attacking UKIP, why not? This is NOT a UKIP site nor has the party itself any connection to it

You can attack it all you want, I couldn't care less. I was just pointing out what and obsessive bore you are becoming. Check your history, it's like you are a jilted lover or something, throwing all your toys out of the pram at every opportunity. Sad, very sad when you insist UKIP is such an irrelevance.

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Within 20 years most of you wil be as dead as ducks, and the fight will be left to those that were against the common market from their earliest days and actively campaigned against it from their teens onwards.

What an odd comment to make. I will outive most who were around when that generation sold my generation out, because I was only just born when it happened. I think I am beginning to see what your worry is now though, it is the fear that UKIP is now getting the younger member through the door too.

andypandy · 01-01-2007, 11:31 AM

Westminster primacy is a false argument? Who to? I couldn't care less what the BBC think, and maybe you should to. It's been a political mouthpiece one way or the other for years now, and so nothing has changed.

As for UKIP attracting the younger generation, when exactly is this going to happen? Next year, within 5 years? Probably never, because the views, image and overall approach, is not conducive to attracting young people, it is simply not "populist" enough, and to attract the younger crowds, it will have to be.

Besides, I didn't think you cared that much for UKIP anymore, or is it that old habits and loyalties die hard?

mkpdavies · 01-01-2007, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by andypandy

Westminster primacy is a false argument? Who to? I couldn't care less what the BBC think, and maybe you should to. It's been a political mouthpiece one way or the other for years now, and so nothing has changed.

As for UKIP attracting the younger generation, when exactly is this going to happen? Next year, within 5 years? Probably never, because the views, image and overall approach, is not conducive to attracting young people, it is simply not "populist" enough, and to attract the younger crowds, it will have to be.

Besides, I didn't think you cared that much for UKIP anymore, or is it that old habits and loyalties die hard?

I don't know how you don't understand the media is showing hypocrisy in saying the EU is relelvant, but then ignoring a political party that has a number of MEPs in a yearly review, but I suspect you do understand but revert to the usual tactic of your party to try and fudge your way out of dumb statement.

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As for UKIP attracting the younger generation, when exactly is this going to happen?

It's happening right now. You can ignore it all you want, it doesn't make the fact go away.

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Besides, I didn't think you cared that much for UKIP anymore, or is it that old habits and loyalties die hard?

Until there is a better option, I'm sticking with the one party that has a liberarian leaning outlook. There is no other option.

freedom & democracy 4 · 01-01-2007, 11:39 AM

A few months ago the BBC said it had a left wing, ethnic and homosexual agenda within the organisation. The bbc was particually biased on a report into UKIP, where Nigel was in romania. Like with Saddam, it had a typical left wing sympathy report.

Britannist · 01-01-2007, 01:49 PM

I have long said that the BBC is biased in favour of the EU and hold to that view. They've been pro-EU for four decades and breaking the habit is a hard thing for them to do. But they have been heavily criticised in recent years by people like the anti-EU Lord Pearson (an Independent Peer who voted UKIP in the last EU Election and who was made to leave the Conservative group in the Lords for admitting that he had done so) and know that their output is being monitored carefully. The majority of the British people are eurosceptic - it's time the BBC reflected this fact in their reporting.

Although the BBC is biased in favour of the EU (and avoids the 'withdrawal' issue in quite the most disgraceful way) this is what was said by reporter Tristana Moore on the BBC 1 Television news todayt 12.54 pm "The feeling across the EU is glum. People fear the Romanians and Bulgarians (who joined the EU today) will go and look for jobs in their countries and there is concern at a new wave of immigration. Many skilled workers in Romania have dreams of working abroad. The cap on the number of Romanians coming in to the UK is just under 20, 000 (not including the self-employed). One forecast (from the IPPR) says 56, 000 will come to the UK from Romania/Bulgaria to the UK in the first year of their membership. Others say that this could be double. There are penalties of up to £5000 for employers who break the rules (on the employment of Romanians/Bulgarians). Sir Andrew Green of MigrationWatch (which is against mass immigration) said (interview with Sir Andrew) We are not expecting a rush. It will build up as Romanians/Bulgarians learn the ropes (i.e. learn the rules/procedures on getting into the UK). We are already receiving nearly one new migrant every minute. The rate of immigration may be the same it was to the UK from Poland. The problem is that this new wave of immigration from Bulgaria/Romania comes after the biggest wave of immigration we have experienced in the history of the UK. (End of comments from Sir Andrew Green)."

Let's see how the BBC and other broadcasters report on the influx from Bulgaria and Romania in other bulletins later today and in the period ahead.

andypandy · 01-01-2007, 09:44 PM

The problem with the likes of the BBC, is that only people that seem to take any notice of it, are the likes of those that post on sites like this. The vast majority of the populace are only interested in tripe and mutton news stories, and tend to pay a cat's whisker of attention to any opinions that the BBC displays. In fact, the real bug-bear of the BBC is that it is state or should I say publically, funded, as many of the stories covered are no different to those displayed on either Channel 4 or 5.

The only news stories that people generally take any notice of are those on the front page of the morning rags, because their headlines can lie open to all and sundry for hour after hour in the cafes, canteens and countless other public places where folk meet to talk and chat publically outside of their home and can have their opinins raised, discussed and hardened by the collective influence of peer group pressures.

Little of that is available wtaching the BBC news on your own tele.

01-01-2007, 09:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	BBC still as biased as ever http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/...video_text.gif Still 100% focus on the old Troika and ignoring the rise of others completely. How much longer can they just ignore parties that have now overtaken the Lib Dems in polls. I'm not expecting equal coverage, but totally pretending they don't exist simply does not make this a review of politics at all. It is an effort to keep the same rigged shell game going. I hope the people are beginning to realise this. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

01-01-2007, 01:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	BBC report on concern in europe at Romania joining EU I have long said that the BBC is biased in favour of the EU and hold to that view. They've been pro-EU for four decades and breaking the habit is a hard thing for them to do. But they have been heavily criticised in recent years by people like the anti-EU Lord Pearson (an Independent Peer who voted UKIP in the last EU Election and who was made to leave the Conservative group in the Lords for admitting that he had done so) and know that their output is being monitored carefully. The majority of the British people are eurosceptic - it's time the BBC reflected this fact in their reporting. Although the BBC is biased in favour of the EU (and avoids the 'withdrawal' issue in quite the most disgraceful way) this is what was said by reporter Tristana Moore on the BBC 1 Television news todayt 12.54 pm "The feeling across the EU is glum. People fear the Romanians and Bulgarians (who joined the EU today) will go and look for jobs in their countries and there is concern at a new wave of immigration. Many skilled workers in Romania have dreams of working abroad. The cap on the number of Romanians coming in to the UK is just under 20, 000 (not including the self-employed). One forecast (from the IPPR) says 56, 000 will come to the UK from Romania/Bulgaria to the UK in the first year of their membership. Others say that this could be double. There are penalties of up to £5000 for employers who break the rules (on the employment of Romanians/Bulgarians). Sir Andrew Green of MigrationWatch (which is against mass immigration) said (interview with Sir Andrew) We are not expecting a rush. It will build up as Romanians/Bulgarians learn the ropes (i.e. learn the rules/procedures on getting into the UK). We are already receiving nearly one new migrant every minute. The rate of immigration may be the same it was to the UK from Poland. The problem is that this new wave of immigration from Bulgaria/Romania comes after the biggest wave of immigration we have experienced in the history of the UK. (End of comments from Sir Andrew Green)." Let's see how the BBC and other broadcasters report on the influx from Bulgaria and Romania in other bulletins later today and in the period ahead.

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01-01-2007, 10:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
andypandy Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 880	They will not recognise the 'others' until joe public actually elect 'others' into serious political positions of power in Westminster and increasingly in local council areas where they actually start to either run or influence council decisions. Not in the joke shop of the European gravy train, which is the only place that UKIP have successfully penetrated, no doubt as an allowance to keep the anti-eu masses 'quiet' and 'content'.

01-01-2007, 11:14 AM	#4 (permalink)
andypandy Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 880	In terms of the position of this country as it exists, Westminster IS the only election worth bothering about. The EU parliament is nothing more than a financial gravy train where not a single bit of good is or ever has been achieved by any so-called anti-EU candidates. As for attacking UKIP, why not? This is NOT a UKIP site nor has the party itself any connection to it. UKIP is largely made up of ex-tories that milked the pro-EU-single European Act Thatcher era for all its worth and now in the halcyon days of their near or actual retirement, actually believe they have both the mental and physical capacities to change things. They are largely hypocrites and johny-come-latelys that have produced little of worth in the fight against the EU and will ultimately contribute little to the final outcome. Within 20 years most of you wil be as dead as ducks, and the fight will be left to those that were against the common market from their earliest days and actively campaigned against it from their teens onwards.

01-01-2007, 11:31 AM	#6 (permalink)
andypandy Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 880	Westminster primacy is a false argument? Who to? I couldn't care less what the BBC think, and maybe you should to. It's been a political mouthpiece one way or the other for years now, and so nothing has changed. As for UKIP attracting the younger generation, when exactly is this going to happen? Next year, within 5 years? Probably never, because the views, image and overall approach, is not conducive to attracting young people, it is simply not "populist" enough, and to attract the younger crowds, it will have to be. Besides, I didn't think you cared that much for UKIP anymore, or is it that old habits and loyalties die hard?

01-01-2007, 11:39 AM	#8 (permalink)
freedom & democracy 4 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Emsworth, full of the EU's Polish imports! Posts: 209	A few months ago the BBC said it had a left wing, ethnic and homosexual agenda within the organisation. The bbc was particually biased on a report into UKIP, where Nigel was in romania. Like with Saddam, it had a typical left wing sympathy report.

01-01-2007, 09:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
andypandy Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 880	The problem with the likes of the BBC, is that only people that seem to take any notice of it, are the likes of those that post on sites like this. The vast majority of the populace are only interested in tripe and mutton news stories, and tend to pay a cat's whisker of attention to any opinions that the BBC displays. In fact, the real bug-bear of the BBC is that it is state or should I say publically, funded, as many of the stories covered are no different to those displayed on either Channel 4 or 5. The only news stories that people generally take any notice of are those on the front page of the morning rags, because their headlines can lie open to all and sundry for hour after hour in the cafes, canteens and countless other public places where folk meet to talk and chat publically outside of their home and can have their opinins raised, discussed and hardened by the collective influence of peer group pressures. Little of that is available wtaching the BBC news on your own tele.