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Old 01-01-2007, 03:41 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Agreed, but given how bad enforcement of the law is already, I fear we'd just witness the Country descend into lawlessness - or are we there already?
Don't fear. You have to do the right thing in each case. Hand in hand with freedom, comes responisibility. If you abuse you freedom to physically hurt others, you get severe penalties. End of.

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I've also got to ask, would there be a defence of 'sorry m'Lud, I didn't mean to rape her, I was off my face on crack'? I can foresee a large increase in diminished responsibility claims...
You raped her, Life, hard labour and humiliation on T.V. for your sins.

That's the package you get with a libertarian agenda. You hurt others, you get ****** up. Bad.
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Old 01-01-2007, 03:43 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Having real punishements for those that DO misuse and cause harm is the only real deterent that will have effect.
Agreed, but given how bad enforcement of the law is already
Simple - you just make law enforcement work properly. For example, sending plod out into the streets rather than on yet another PC course on how they should treat fat, ugly, militant lezzers.

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I've also got to ask, would there be a defence of 'sorry m'Lud, I didn't mean to rape her, I was off my face on crack'? I can foresee a large increase in diminished responsibility claims...
Responsibility lies in the defendant's choice to get off his face on crack in the first place. Get off your face on crack and don't bother anyone, fine. Get off your face on crack and rape someone, it's still the result of your actions.
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Agreed, but given how bad enforcement of the law is already, I fear we'd just witness the Country descend into lawlessness - or are we there already?
Don't fear. You have to do the right thing in each case. Hand in hand with freedom, comes responisibility. If you abuse you freedom to physically hurt others, you get severe penalties. End of.

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I've also got to ask, would there be a defence of 'sorry m'Lud, I didn't mean to rape her, I was off my face on crack'? I can foresee a large increase in diminished responsibility claims...
You raped her, Life, hard labour and humiliation on T.V. for your sins.

That's the package you get with a libertarian agenda. You hurt others, you get f****d up. Bad.
That sounds much more like it. If only it worked that way now...
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You raped her, Life, hard labour and humiliation on T.V. for your sins.

That's the package you get with a libertarian agenda. You hurt others, you get f****d up. Bad.
Is this view not at odds with your views on Sadman Husseins execution and the videoing of it?
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You raped her, Life, hard labour and humiliation on T.V. for your sins.

That's the package you get with a libertarian agenda. You hurt others, you get f****d up. Bad.
Is this view not at odds with your views on Sadman Husseins execution and the videoing of it?
No, as I didn't say kill them.
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I think the welfare culture costs us far more than Smokers
A third of the national budget, in fact.
Thats just the financial cost.
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Will it be illegal for under 18s to smoke, or just buy tobacco?
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Whats next,men have to be 25 and women 28 before they can drive?
Now that actually would be a sensible policy.
Here in Queensland they are about to introduce a law stopping under 25s with "P" plates from driving "fast" (V8 or turbo) cars.

I'm more for better driver training than age limits though. If a 16-year-old can drive competently, why shouldn't they have a licence? Incidentally, I probably wouldn't have stood a chance of passing the test at 16!
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