Should we establish a United Front for the EU elections?

Jeff · 29-10-2006, 02:00 PM

if csteam is symethising like this for theBNP how many others were with him in the bloody Leclade group,was Butcher one as well you can think.

Oliver · 29-10-2006, 02:01 PM

CS I am a rare bird.
I have worked in Ulster and Scotland. I have many friends who are dyed in the wool Loyalists, the BNP/and NF have been making overtures to them since the 1970s in vivid lurid ways.

Here they are seeking respectability so they present calm measured reason. in Scotland & Ulster they want to out do the paramilitaries and have forged some links.

All Neo nazis will destroy or self destuct sooner or later.

I dont want them anywhere near me thank you!

Oliver · 29-10-2006, 02:10 PM

Jeff
CS can defend himself. But, he is a democrat and not a man of facisitic tendencies.

He is only frustrated at UKIP's feeble last few years and lack of progress.

As are we all.

The Lechlade Group in no way equates to Fascists. The main plank in all their platforms was to enable people and allow true democracy to flourish in the standard bearer party for more, not less, democracy

Try a little resect please, the LG are just ordinary people trying to democratize UKIP. One day that will be plain for all to see.

mkpdavies · 29-10-2006, 04:45 PM

I always had you down as a potential BNP troll Csteam, you just confirmed it, that's all.

I'd rather be ruled by the EU than the BNP.

Get some nuts and just join them csteam. There is a good reason they are seen as scum, it's because they are.

If don't think that's the case then join them and find out the hard way.

C_steam · 29-10-2006, 05:29 PM

I have no intention of joining the BNP, nor would I want to. I note you have not responded to my line by line breakdown.

I repeat - which parts do you not agree with?

It seems that the only point of difference is that I would be willing to have some kind of joining of the small parties, if that is what it took to get out of the EU, wheras you would not be willing to do so, which is fair enough.

After all, it is a personal opinion, that's all.

mkpdavies · 29-10-2006, 05:36 PM

The BNP are evil and they are scum. They are run by Hitler worshiping fascists and racists.

Yep most parties have some of those, but they aren't run by them and don't have them as core values.

If you don't believe that then you are gullable and stupid and I don't believe that is the case.

The day and organisation becomes an friend of the BNP, is the day it becomes and enemy of me.

Quit playing games.

eublues · 29-10-2006, 05:52 PM

I could understand an individual voting for the BNP as a protest out of sheer frustration at the damage being done by Blair and the uselessness of the big opposition parties.

But for UKIP to have a relationship with them would be a much graver matter, and certainly be the end of UKIP.

Hartlepool · 29-10-2006, 05:59 PM

Maybe thats what cs wants?

The end of UKIP.

Also,maybe this is just a wind up because of those who are involved in this little play acting skirmish. :roll:

Independence Now! · 29-10-2006, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkpdavies

The BNP are evil and they are scum. They are run by Hitler worshiping fascists and racists.

Yep most parties have some of those, but they aren't run by them and don't have them as core values.

If you don't believe that then you are gullable and stupid and I don't believe that is the case.

The day and organisation becomes an friend of the BNP, is the day it becomes and enemy of me.

Quit playing games.

The BNP are not evil and they are not scum. Why do you think they exist? Surely, it is because of 60 years of constant treason by Labour and Tory? If you arel looking for evil look for it in those parties of national betrayal.

What about the 'former' Communist John Reid now in Her Majesty's Government!

Hartlepool · 29-10-2006, 07:22 PM

MKP is dead right in what he says about the bnp,what was the result of their lesder being up before the beak the other week by the way. :P

Hope he gets about 5 years porridge at least. 8)

Fingers crossed everyone now.

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29-10-2006, 04:45 PM	#34 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,823 Party: Libertarian Party	I always had you down as a potential BNP troll Csteam, you just confirmed it, that's all. I'd rather be ruled by the EU than the BNP. Get some nuts and just join them csteam. There is a good reason they are seen as scum, it's because they are. If don't think that's the case then join them and find out the hard way. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

29-10-2006, 05:36 PM	#36 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,823 Party: Libertarian Party	The BNP are evil and they are scum. They are run by Hitler worshiping fascists and racists. Yep most parties have some of those, but they aren't run by them and don't have them as core values. If you don't believe that then you are gullable and stupid and I don't believe that is the case. The day and organisation becomes an friend of the BNP, is the day it becomes and enemy of me. Quit playing games. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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29-10-2006, 02:00 PM	#31 (permalink)
Jeff Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 371 Party: Free England Party	if csteam is symethising like this for theBNP how many others were with him in the bloody Leclade group,was Butcher one as well you can think.

29-10-2006, 02:01 PM	#32 (permalink)
Oliver Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WHITBY North Yorkshire (but my heart is in Woking) Posts: 1,062	CS I am a rare bird. I have worked in Ulster and Scotland. I have many friends who are dyed in the wool Loyalists, the BNP/and NF have been making overtures to them since the 1970s in vivid lurid ways. Here they are seeking respectability so they present calm measured reason. in Scotland & Ulster they want to out do the paramilitaries and have forged some links. All Neo nazis will destroy or self destuct sooner or later. I dont want them anywhere near me thank you!

29-10-2006, 02:10 PM	#33 (permalink)
Oliver Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WHITBY North Yorkshire (but my heart is in Woking) Posts: 1,062	Jeff CS can defend himself. But, he is a democrat and not a man of facisitic tendencies. He is only frustrated at UKIP's feeble last few years and lack of progress. As are we all. The Lechlade Group in no way equates to Fascists. The main plank in all their platforms was to enable people and allow true democracy to flourish in the standard bearer party for more, not less, democracy Try a little resect please, the LG are just ordinary people trying to democratize UKIP. One day that will be plain for all to see.

29-10-2006, 05:29 PM	#35 (permalink)
C_steam Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Paddling up 5hit creek..... Posts: 7,702	I have no intention of joining the BNP, nor would I want to. I note you have not responded to my line by line breakdown. I repeat - which parts do you not agree with? It seems that the only point of difference is that I would be willing to have some kind of joining of the small parties, if that is what it took to get out of the EU, wheras you would not be willing to do so, which is fair enough. After all, it is a personal opinion, that's all.

29-10-2006, 05:52 PM	#37 (permalink)
eublues Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,100	I could understand an individual voting for the BNP as a protest out of sheer frustration at the damage being done by Blair and the uselessness of the big opposition parties. But for UKIP to have a relationship with them would be a much graver matter, and certainly be the end of UKIP.

29-10-2006, 05:59 PM	#38 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,785 Party: Free England Party	Maybe thats what cs wants? The end of UKIP. Also,maybe this is just a wind up because of those who are involved in this little play acting skirmish. :roll:

29-10-2006, 07:22 PM	#40 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,785 Party: Free England Party	MKP is dead right in what he says about the bnp,what was the result of their lesder being up before the beak the other week by the way. :P Hope he gets about 5 years porridge at least. 8) Fingers crossed everyone now.