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Old 25-10-2006, 10:44 PM   #21 (permalink)
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the Public dont give two shits about the EU.
Just wait for them to realise that they and their children will struggle to find jobs in competition with EU and other immigration, and any jobs going will be at the minimum wage. We could be in for a massive change of sentiment on this one.
But its the immigration issue we need to campiagn on in order to get the votes to push the EU issue.
We know the EU controls much of our immigration policy the public does not.
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The EU role is now coming through much clearer on the TV and in the papers.
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Old 25-10-2006, 11:02 PM   #23 (permalink)
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The EU role is now coming through much clearer on the TV and in the papers.
To much talk about the EU in the past has been about economics.
We need to get across the message -

The EU = Mass Immigration.
The EU = No return to Corporal or Capital Punishment.
The EU = No Protection of British Industry and Jobs.
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But its the immigration issue we need to campiagn on in order to get the votes to push the EU issue.
We know the EU controls much of our immigration policy the public does not.
I agree, it's about time for some joined-up politics.
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English Independence would be the fastest route out of the EUssr for 85% of the UK population.

Why isn't UKIP campaigning to get Southern Ireland back if you feel so strongly about a truly United Kingdom (of Great Britian & Ireland)
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The powers currently held by the regions would be handed to the English Parliament.
I am 100% against this. The vast majority of powers held by the regions should be returned to county and city councils.


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English Independence would be the fastest route out of the EUssr for 85% of the UK population.
English "independence" within the EU will hinder the struggle against the EU.

Manchester, Birmingham, Liverpool and Bristol will be within 50 miles of an international border. Giving the Eurocrats the power to impose border controls so near British cities is lunatic.
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The powers currently held by the regions would be handed to the English Parliament.
I am 100% against this. The vast majority of powers held by the regions should be returned to county and city councils.


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English Independence would be the fastest route out of the EUssr for 85% of the UK population.
English "independence" within the EU will hinder the struggle against the EU.

Manchester, Birmingham, Liverpool and Bristol will be within 50 miles of an international border. Giving the Eurocrats the power to impose border controls so near British cities is lunatic.
In what way would it hinder anything?
As it is now Britishness just wont sell in Scotland and Wales and with 31% of English people now backing independence it sells even less well here.
So the hinderance now is the UK itself and the British Wide movements who seek EU withdrawl.
As for local government I would rather see things ran by Central Government than mini Soviet state slike Liverpool and Manchester.
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English Independence would be the fastest route out of the EUssr for 85% of the UK population.

Why isn't UKIP campaigning to get Southern Ireland back if you feel so strongly about a truly United Kingdom (of Great Britian & Ireland)
UKIP are commited to the Unoin not a return to the great British Empire.
Almost every thread you post on ED you ask this question.

UKIP supports withdrawal from the EU and does over 60% of the electorate.
The English Democrats supports something that the minority of the electorate support.
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Old 26-10-2006, 07:08 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Those people who support English 'independence' are I suspect much like the ones in Scotland ie people who really haven't given much thought to what it would actually mean in practice. There is NO NEED WHATSOEVER to destroy the United Kingdom either from an economic or a social perspective. If it happened, we would ALL BE THE LOSERS and we would find it difficult to escape from the EU's orbit. However, if we stay together as a United Kingdom, then we still have a good chance of securing a better future for all of us.
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English Independence would be the fastest route out of the EUssr for 85% of the UK population.

Why isn't UKIP campaigning to get Southern Ireland back if you feel so strongly about a truly United Kingdom (of Great Britian & Ireland)
UKIP are commited to the Unoin not a return to the great British Empire.
Almost every thread you post on ED you ask this question.

UKIP supports withdrawal from the EU and does over 60% of the electorate.
The English Democrats supports something that the minority of the electorate support.

Ryansoton, you made an innocent mistake there in thinking that a return of the Republic to the United Kingdom would be the British Empire all over again. It wouldn't be. Ireland was an integral part of the United Kingdom for over 100 years and sent MPs to the British Parliament at Westminster something which NO British colony was ever granted the right to do, not even the thirteen American colonies or Australia.

Here are some interesting websites: www.irishunionism.org

www.reform.org

http://irishloyal.awardspace.info
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