Referendum

ryansoton · 24-10-2006, 09:23 AM

During the run up to the Iraq war the Daily Mail organised polling stattions at local and national chains of supermarkets and newsagents where you could vote on going to war.
All the parties and organisation believing in EU withdrawal should come together and organise a poll using the same methods as the Daily Mail.
The result would obviouslly be unofficial and the government would ignore but it would leave us with more ammunition providing the result went our way.

ryansoton · 24-10-2006, 09:34 AM

We could even have a website dedicated to it where people can vote.

harryaldridge · 24-10-2006, 09:59 AM

Nice idea. We would need to find sponsors and a chain of sores willing to participate.

It would probably be most useful in the run up to the next Euro elections or General election (and they might be on the same day!). If it showed a significant response in favour of leaving the EU, the papers woudl go into a frenzy and UKIP woud get lots of coverage.

Rich C · 24-10-2006, 10:00 AM

I agree.

If you remember, the Daily Mail also ran a major survey in conjunction with ICM a few years ago to give people the choice on whether they would like a referendum on the proposed EU Constitution. It turned out one and a half million people did want a referendum on the proposal! And this was one of the key turning points in Blair's u-turn on saying we could have one.

I think a similar survery demanding that we have a referendum on continues EU membership would be more difficult to win but even if we lost it would still get the issue further into the public's mind and show people that EU withdrawal seekers aren't just little britain nutters like government and most of the media likes to portray us.

cookie65 · 24-10-2006, 10:46 AM

Just curious, do we have an official party line on Iraq or Afghanistan?

ryansoton · 24-10-2006, 11:10 AM

We were against the war in Iraq but we have said nothing on the continued occupation of Iraq.

cookie65 · 24-10-2006, 01:43 PM

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We were against the war in Iraq

Great, but on what grounds, Do not agree with toppling saddam? or no plan for the future?

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but we have said nothing on the continued occupation of Iraq.

Why not? bearing in mind the overwhelming views of the public why are we not the only anti war party? we should be shouting from the rooftops.

eublues · 24-10-2006, 01:51 PM

UKIP's position at the time was that it did not support war without a fresh UN resolution. That was sensible position at the time and looking back.

mkpdavies · 24-10-2006, 02:51 PM

It was very sensible, but UKIP have made absolutely nothing of the stance.

Indeed they may aswell not have made it.

Rich C · 24-10-2006, 09:07 PM

What? Why the hell did this topic suddenly change from referenda to Iraq?

24-10-2006, 09:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
ryansoton Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Southampton Posts: 771 Party: Other	Referendum During the run up to the Iraq war the Daily Mail organised polling stattions at local and national chains of supermarkets and newsagents where you could vote on going to war. All the parties and organisation believing in EU withdrawal should come together and organise a poll using the same methods as the Daily Mail. The result would obviouslly be unofficial and the government would ignore but it would leave us with more ammunition providing the result went our way.

24-10-2006, 02:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	It was very sensible, but UKIP have made absolutely nothing of the stance. Indeed they may aswell not have made it. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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24-10-2006, 09:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
ryansoton Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Southampton Posts: 771 Party: Other	We could even have a website dedicated to it where people can vote.

24-10-2006, 09:59 AM	#3 (permalink)
harryaldridge Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Sussex Posts: 1,912	Nice idea. We would need to find sponsors and a chain of sores willing to participate. It would probably be most useful in the run up to the next Euro elections or General election (and they might be on the same day!). If it showed a significant response in favour of leaving the EU, the papers woudl go into a frenzy and UKIP woud get lots of coverage.

24-10-2006, 10:00 AM	#4 (permalink)
Rich C Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Leicester Posts: 220	I agree. If you remember, the Daily Mail also ran a major survey in conjunction with ICM a few years ago to give people the choice on whether they would like a referendum on the proposed EU Constitution. It turned out one and a half million people did want a referendum on the proposal! And this was one of the key turning points in Blair's u-turn on saying we could have one. I think a similar survery demanding that we have a referendum on continues EU membership would be more difficult to win but even if we lost it would still get the issue further into the public's mind and show people that EU withdrawal seekers aren't just little britain nutters like government and most of the media likes to portray us.

24-10-2006, 10:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
cookie65 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: hyde cheshire Posts: 643	Just curious, do we have an official party line on Iraq or Afghanistan?

24-10-2006, 11:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
ryansoton Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Southampton Posts: 771 Party: Other	We were against the war in Iraq but we have said nothing on the continued occupation of Iraq.

24-10-2006, 01:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
eublues Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,005	UKIP's position at the time was that it did not support war without a fresh UN resolution. That was sensible position at the time and looking back.

24-10-2006, 09:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
Rich C Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Leicester Posts: 220	What? Why the hell did this topic suddenly change from referenda to Iraq?