What will we call the UK when Scotland leaves ?

Johnny Hates Jazz · 08-10-2006, 11:25 PM

The Unionist politicians in the Labour Party, Conservative & Unionist Party, Liberal Democrats and UKIP, all seem to have their head in the sand regarding the impending end of the Union.

Granted, that polls for English Independence and an English Parliament in July 2006 are respectively 31% and 41%, so English Nationalist, would have to concede that although a significant MINORITY now support ENGLAND as apposed to BRITAIN, we are not currently in the majority in England.

HOWEVER, in Scotland 46% already support FULL Scottish Independence away from England

http://www.snp.org/snpnews/2005/snp_...20Independence

The likely scenario is that in May 2007 Scotland will vote for an SNP Goverment, and shortly afterwards a referendum on Scottish Independence will be held.

So assumming Scotland becomes an independent nation, what will England Wales and Northern Ireland be called.

United Kingdom - would hardly be appropriate !

Great Britain - would hardly be appropriate !

So I guess we get left with either

Britain

or

Greater England

or do we simply use this as an opportunity to chuck aside Wales and N Ireland and call ourselves

England !

ED

Simon Muir · 08-10-2006, 11:57 PM

Well your bit is officially gonna be France!

So get a life, and start working to get the EU out of the UNITED KINGDOM.

Independence Now! · 09-10-2006, 12:03 AM

I wholeheartedly agree, Simon Muir. :evil: I've got a new name if that heartbreaking scenario ever happened. How about this: Island populated by demented idiots who couldn't see the wood for the trees and allowed the EU's beaurocrats to set fellow Briton upon fellow Briton against each other and ended-up as as powereless provinces in the Greater Europa run by Brussels and Berlin! :roll: :cry: Admittedly, very long-winded and not a sensible name but it sums-up the resultant situation well I feel.

mkpdavies · 09-10-2006, 12:07 AM

Lesser Britain

or

Broken

This-England · 09-10-2006, 12:22 AM

The Britishness of UKIP holds no appeal to the Scots and Welsh and less everyday to the English so any chance of getting us out of Europe gets smaller.
I should think that the EU love British Nationalism and UKIP.

Soddball · 09-10-2006, 08:25 AM

Relieved.

Edward Longshanks · 09-10-2006, 01:42 PM

The way things are going, Englandistan, still according to the EDP it'll still be English. Let's tuck into our halal kebabs and celebrate independence from the nearest mosque:roll:

This-England · 09-10-2006, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Longshanks

The way things are going, Englandistan, still according to the EDP it'll still be English. Let's tuck into our halal kebabs and celebrate independence from the nearest mosque:roll:

English Nationalism is the only chance we have got, Britishness just does not have enough electoral support.
The EDP oppose asylum seekers who have passed through any safe countrys and economic migrants being allowed in as immigrants.
That says to me Zero immigration.

Edward Longshanks · 09-10-2006, 05:14 PM

Be careful This England, if you move any further to the right then the all knowledgeable one from Woking will have to decide whether or not you are persona non grata. Whatever he decrees will be gospel and any further discussion is pointless!

Independence Now! · 09-10-2006, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by This-England

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Longshanks

The way things are going, Englandistan, still according to the EDP it'll still be English. Let's tuck into our halal kebabs and celebrate independence from the nearest mosque:roll:

English Nationalism is the only chance we have got, Britishness just does not have enough electoral support.
The EDP oppose asylum seekers who have passed through any safe countrys and economic migrants being allowed in as immigrants.
That says to me Zero immigration.

Big deal. :roll: That still leaves a massive problem. If British Nationalism doesn't have much support then why does the BNP have more councillors than the ED's have?

View Poll Results: What should the UK be called without Scotland
Britain	4	22.22%
Greater England	2	11.11%
England	1	5.56%
England, Wales & Northern Ireland	3	16.67%
None of the above	8	44.44%
Voters: 18. You may not vote on this poll

08-10-2006, 11:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
Johnny Hates Jazz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,973 Party: English Democrats	What will we call the UK when Scotland leaves ? The Unionist politicians in the Labour Party, Conservative & Unionist Party, Liberal Democrats and UKIP, all seem to have their head in the sand regarding the impending end of the Union. Granted, that polls for English Independence and an English Parliament in July 2006 are respectively 31% and 41%, so English Nationalist, would have to concede that although a significant MINORITY now support ENGLAND as apposed to BRITAIN, we are not currently in the majority in England. HOWEVER, in Scotland 46% already support FULL Scottish Independence away from England http://www.snp.org/snpnews/2005/snp_...20Independence The likely scenario is that in May 2007 Scotland will vote for an SNP Goverment, and shortly afterwards a referendum on Scottish Independence will be held. So assumming Scotland becomes an independent nation, what will England Wales and Northern Ireland be called. United Kingdom - would hardly be appropriate ! Great Britain - would hardly be appropriate ! So I guess we get left with either Britain or Greater England or do we simply use this as an opportunity to chuck aside Wales and N Ireland and call ourselves England ! ED

08-10-2006, 11:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
Simon Muir Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bristol Posts: 166	Well your bit is officially gonna be France! So get a life, and start working to get the EU out of the UNITED KINGDOM. __________________ Macduff, becoming tired of tomfoolery, flung his sword aside, and seizing hold of McGonagall, brought the sublime tragedy of Macbeth to a close in a rather undnigified way, by taking the feet from under the principal character. (review, Dundee 1858)

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mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,825 Party: Libertarian Party	Lesser Britain or Broken __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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09-10-2006, 12:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
Independence Now! Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,096	I wholeheartedly agree, Simon Muir. :evil: I've got a new name if that heartbreaking scenario ever happened. How about this: Island populated by demented idiots who couldn't see the wood for the trees and allowed the EU's beaurocrats to set fellow Briton upon fellow Briton against each other and ended-up as as powereless provinces in the Greater Europa run by Brussels and Berlin! :roll: :cry: Admittedly, very long-winded and not a sensible name but it sums-up the resultant situation well I feel.

09-10-2006, 12:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
This-England Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,682	The Britishness of UKIP holds no appeal to the Scots and Welsh and less everyday to the English so any chance of getting us out of Europe gets smaller. I should think that the EU love British Nationalism and UKIP.

09-10-2006, 08:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
Soddball Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 272	Relieved.

09-10-2006, 01:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
Edward Longshanks Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bucks Posts: 625	The way things are going, Englandistan, still according to the EDP it'll still be English. Let's tuck into our halal kebabs and celebrate independence from the nearest mosque:roll:

09-10-2006, 05:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
Edward Longshanks Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bucks Posts: 625	Be careful This England, if you move any further to the right then the all knowledgeable one from Woking will have to decide whether or not you are persona non grata. Whatever he decrees will be gospel and any further discussion is pointless!