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View Poll Results: What should the UK be called without Scotland
Britain 4 22.22%
Greater England 2 11.11%
England 1 5.56%
England, Wales & Northern Ireland 3 16.67%
None of the above 8 44.44%
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Old 26-10-2006, 03:42 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Old 26-10-2006, 07:03 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Maybe a confederation of the nation states of the British Isles isn't a stupid idea.

You confuse me ED.
Have you become a member of the English Independence Party?

I don't think it is either. It is probably the only realistic way that a 'united Ireland' will ever come about.

Here is an interesting website: http://irishloyal.awardspace.info


I am bemused by the English Democrats. They say they want a devolved Parliament within the United Kingdom but some of their members appear to have attitudes towards the other parts of the United Kingdom which have more than a touch of sourness about them. I get the feeling that many members of the EDs would like nothing better than the dissolution of the United Kingdom and that they would love to tell these other parts of the UK to sod off!
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Old 26-10-2006, 09:49 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Then why don't you start a campaign to get Southern Ireland back !
There are already four nations in the UK - England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. Whilst Wales is a principality and Northern Ireland a province - they are, effectively, nations as such.

We agree that England must have equality with Scotland in the UK and that there must be an English Parliament and English Executive.
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There are already four nations in the UK - England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. Whilst Wales is a principality and Northern Ireland a province - they are, effectively, nations as such.

We agree that England must have equality with Scotland in the UK and that there must be an English Parliament and English Executive.
Northern Ireland is a strange nation being split between Irishmen and Ulster-Scots.
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If you want 4 Nations in the UK

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There are already four nations in the UK - England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. Whilst Wales is a principality and Northern Ireland a province - they are, effectively, nations as such.

We agree that England must have equality with Scotland in the UK and that there must be an English Parliament and English Executive.
Northern Ireland is a strange nation being split between Irishmen and Ulster-Scots.
I don't see anything "strange" about Northern Ireland. A large number of Roman Catholics in Northern Ireland would not vote to quit the UK. Not all Ulster folk (i.e. Protestants) are "Ulster Scots". Some are partly or wholly of English ancestry and some, actually, are of Irish Celtic origin. A number of Northern Irish people are a mixture of Scottish and English ancestry and some are of Norse origin. There are also some who are half Irish Celtic and half Protestant (of Scottish or English ancestry).

About 60% of the 1.7 million population of Northern Ireland are of the Protestant faith.
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Maybe a confederation of the nation states of the British Isles isn't a stupid idea.

You confuse me ED.
Have you become a member of the English Independence Party?
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Personally I am still are favour of a Federal UK

However, with the SNP way ahead in the polls in Scotland, this is becoming increasingly unlikely.

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If you want 4 Nations in the UK

Then why don't you start a campaign to get Southern Ireland back !
There are already four nations in the UK - England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. Whilst Wales is a principality and Northern Ireland a province - they are, effectively, nations as such.

We agree that England must have equality with Scotland in the UK and that there must be an English Parliament and English Executive.
Northern Ireland is a strange nation being split between Irishmen and Ulster-Scots.
I don't see anything "strange" about Northern Ireland. A large number of Roman Catholics in Northern Ireland would not vote to quit the UK. Not all Ulster folk (i.e. Protestants) are "Ulster Scots". Some are partly or wholly of English ancestry and some, actually, are of Irish Celtic origin. A number of Northern Irish people are a mixture of Scottish and English ancestry and some are of Norse origin. There are also some who are half Irish Celtic and half Protestant (of Scottish or English ancestry).

About 60% of the 1.7 million population of Northern Ireland are of the Protestant faith.
Around one fifth of Catholics last time i checked supported the continuation of the Union.
Yet only 1% of them voted for Unionist political parties.
The Ulster Unionist Party has learned to its cost if you chase the votes of these people you will lose the support of the Ulster-Scots.
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