4% would vote UKIP in early general election

This-England · 28-09-2006, 06:02 PM

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The English Democrats should realise that there is little point in setting-up an English Parliament...

STOP RIGHT THERE!

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... untill Britain withdraws from the EU as currently 60% of our laws originate in Brussels so an English Parliament would just be a compliant puppy of the Westminster Parliament which is, in turn, a County Council of the EU beast.

You had to go and elaborate (sigh). The idea of an English parliament is simply contributing to the break-up of the UK and indirectly doing the EU's work for it. It's neither necessary nor desirable, and a stupid waste of effort on the part of the EDP. The best outcome is to get rid of the Welsh, Scottish and Cornish talking shops, and re-unite the nation.

What do you mean Cornwall hasn't got a parliament? Give it time - it's already getting an EU grant to 'save' the Cornish language (whichever flavour is in favour this week!). The trouble is, there were no native speakers left, so when some political correctie decided to 'save' it, they had to re-learn it from books. Now they're arguing about which version (there's more than one book) is right. And we're paying for all this.

The whole idea is nonsense.

The UK is not a Nation.

I agree. The UK is the constitutional title of the state but there is a British nation in the sense that the vast majority of Britain's people feel a basic kinship with each other and thus in a war situation we would all help each other.

I dont think you would find many Englishmen who would fight for Scotland.

Independence Now! · 28-09-2006, 08:03 PM

Perhaps, those idiots would fight for Germany instead then? Why don't you English and Scottish separatists go and get a life. Britain is not going to break-apart just because some peoople don't realise that we share 300 years of joint history between us and we have helped and supported each other throughout those 300 years. If any of you English or Scottish separatists don't like Britain as she is then you are free to leave.

Britannist · 28-09-2006, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Independence Now!

Perhaps, those idiots would fight for Germany instead then? Why don't you English and Scottish separatists go and get a life. Britain is not going to break-apart just because some peoople don't realise that we share 300 years of joint history between us and we have helped and supported each other throughout those 300 years. If any of you English or Scottish separatists don't like Britain as she is then you are free to leave.

The 400th Anniversary of the United Kingdom (2007) is now only a few months away. I understand that the authorities are not expecting crowds of hundreds of thousands to gather in the centre of Scottish towns and cities to celebrate the annniversary.

Which is just as well from their point of view - because there would not be enough Union Jacks (UK flags) to go around. They are no longer kept in stock in most outlets in Scotland having (so I heard) 'gone out of fashion').

I am merely stating fact - what I think doesn't come into this posting. There is no party mood in Scotland for the 2007 400th Anniversary of the creation of the UK.

Britannist · 28-09-2006, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by This-England

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Originally Posted by Independence Now!

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Originally Posted by This-England

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Originally Posted by Simon Muir

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Originally Posted by Independence Now!

The English Democrats should realise that there is little point in setting-up an English Parliament...

STOP RIGHT THERE!

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... untill Britain withdraws from the EU as currently 60% of our laws originate in Brussels so an English Parliament would just be a compliant puppy of the Westminster Parliament which is, in turn, a County Council of the EU beast.

You had to go and elaborate (sigh). The idea of an English parliament is simply contributing to the break-up of the UK and indirectly doing the EU's work for it. It's neither necessary nor desirable, and a stupid waste of effort on the part of the EDP. The best outcome is to get rid of the Welsh, Scottish and Cornish talking shops, and re-unite the nation.

What do you mean Cornwall hasn't got a parliament? Give it time - it's already getting an EU grant to 'save' the Cornish language (whichever flavour is in favour this week!). The trouble is, there were no native speakers left, so when some political correctie decided to 'save' it, they had to re-learn it from books. Now they're arguing about which version (there's more than one book) is right. And we're paying for all this.

The whole idea is nonsense.

The UK is not a Nation.

I agree. The UK is the constitutional title of the state but there is a British nation in the sense that the vast majority of Britain's people feel a basic kinship with each other and thus in a war situation we would all help each other.

I dont think you would find many Englishmen who would fight for Scotland.

Not if it was not part of the UK they wouldn't. Although an actual invasion of Scotland does affect our security in England (and in Northern Ireland and Wales for that matter). We share the same land mass/group of islands. We in England could not stand by if a hostile anti-English power invaded Scotland (in order to take it over and/or use it as a springboard for an attack on England/Wales/Ulster).

Edward Longshanks · 28-09-2006, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Independence Now!

Perhaps, those idiots would fight for Germany instead then? Why don't you English and Scottish separatists go and get a life. Britain is not going to break-apart just because some peoople don't realise that we share 300 years of joint history between us and we have helped and supported each other throughout those 300 years. If any of you English or Scottish separatists don't like Britain as she is then you are free to leave.

The 400th Anniversary of the United Kingdom (2007) is now only a few months away. I understand that the authorities are not expecting crowds of hundreds of thousands to gather in the centre of Scottish towns and cities to celebrate the annniversary.

Which is just as well from their point of view - because there would not be enough Union Jacks (UK flags) to go around. They are no longer kept in stock in most outlets in Scotland having (so I heard) 'gone out of fashion').

I am merely stating fact - what I think doesn't come into this posting. There is no party mood in Scotland for the 2007 400th Anniversary of the creation of the UK.

Visit Ibrox Stadium the home of Glasgow Rangers, when the Old Firm match is on, you'll see an abundance of Union Jacks in there.

This-England · 28-09-2006, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Independence Now!

Perhaps, those idiots would fight for Germany instead then? Why don't you English and Scottish separatists go and get a life. Britain is not going to break-apart just because some peoople don't realise that we share 300 years of joint history between us and we have helped and supported each other throughout those 300 years. If any of you English or Scottish separatists don't like Britain as she is then you are free to leave.

Your the one so keen on fighting for foreign countrys so why dont you go and fight for Germany.
I will fight got England and England alone.
31% of English want independence already how long before thats 50%?

This-England · 28-09-2006, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

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Originally Posted by Independence Now!

Perhaps, those idiots would fight for Germany instead then? Why don't you English and Scottish separatists go and get a life. Britain is not going to break-apart just because some peoople don't realise that we share 300 years of joint history between us and we have helped and supported each other throughout those 300 years. If any of you English or Scottish separatists don't like Britain as she is then you are free to leave.

The 400th Anniversary of the United Kingdom (2007) is now only a few months away. I understand that the authorities are not expecting crowds of hundreds of thousands to gather in the centre of Scottish towns and cities to celebrate the annniversary.

Which is just as well from their point of view - because there would not be enough Union Jacks (UK flags) to go around. They are no longer kept in stock in most outlets in Scotland having (so I heard) 'gone out of fashion').

I am merely stating fact - what I think doesn't come into this posting. There is no party mood in Scotland for the 2007 400th Anniversary of the creation of the UK.

Exactly.
Britishness is dead.

This-England · 28-09-2006, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Longshanks

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Originally Posted by Independence Now!

Perhaps, those idiots would fight for Germany instead then? Why don't you English and Scottish separatists go and get a life. Britain is not going to break-apart just because some peoople don't realise that we share 300 years of joint history between us and we have helped and supported each other throughout those 300 years. If any of you English or Scottish separatists don't like Britain as she is then you are free to leave.

The 400th Anniversary of the United Kingdom (2007) is now only a few months away. I understand that the authorities are not expecting crowds of hundreds of thousands to gather in the centre of Scottish towns and cities to celebrate the annniversary.

Which is just as well from their point of view - because there would not be enough Union Jacks (UK flags) to go around. They are no longer kept in stock in most outlets in Scotland having (so I heard) 'gone out of fashion').

I am merely stating fact - what I think doesn't come into this posting. There is no party mood in Scotland for the 2007 400th Anniversary of the creation of the UK.

Visit Ibrox Stadium the home of Glasgow Rangers, when the Old Firm match is on, you'll see an abundance of Union Jacks in there.

If it wasnt for Glasgow Rangers and the Orange Order they wouldnt be a single Unionist in Scotland.
Only viable political form of Unionism in Scotland that will work is one based on the Tradional Orange John Buchan Unionist Model.
The Conservatives, The BNP or UKIP will just not do well up there.

Suthers · 29-09-2006, 02:39 PM

Strange, they have never specified which parties the people had indicated that they would like to vote for before in the 'other' catagory, this must be the first time.

Independence Now! · 29-09-2006, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Independence Now!

Perhaps, those idiots would fight for Germany instead then? Why don't you English and Scottish separatists go and get a life. Britain is not going to break-apart just because some peoople don't realise that we share 300 years of joint history between us and we have helped and supported each other throughout those 300 years. If any of you English or Scottish separatists don't like Britain as she is then you are free to leave.

Your the one so keen on fighting for foreign countrys so why dont you go and fight for Germany.
I will fight got England and England alone.
31% of English want independence already how long before thats 50%?

Those 31% are brainless morons who haven't even thought through the real consequences of what they wish for along with the idiots in Scotland. They are proposing that families SPLIT APART and HAVE TO CHOOSE between different passports.

I wish people in this land could see what the EU has done to us. They want this and too many people in BRITAIN are too damm well thick to not see it for the nasty little trick on Britain that it undoubtedly is.

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28-09-2006, 08:03 PM	#22 (permalink)
Independence Now! Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,096	Perhaps, those idiots would fight for Germany instead then? Why don't you English and Scottish separatists go and get a life. Britain is not going to break-apart just because some peoople don't realise that we share 300 years of joint history between us and we have helped and supported each other throughout those 300 years. If any of you English or Scottish separatists don't like Britain as she is then you are free to leave.

29-09-2006, 02:39 PM	#29 (permalink)
Suthers Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 125	Strange, they have never specified which parties the people had indicated that they would like to vote for before in the 'other' catagory, this must be the first time.