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Are UKIP with us on this one ?

The EDP man in Monmouthshire, who has collected all this evidence is
Win Thomas.

This is what he says:-

"When the 1972 Local Government Act was being dealt with in
committee, 3 M.P.s with no political connections to Monmouthshire,
Brynmor John (Pontypridd),George Thomas(Cardiff West), (later
Speaker Thomas) and Gibson Watt (Hereford),on the 14 March 1972
constructed a paragraph that would achieve the transfer of
Monmouthshire to Wales by stating “including the areas of
Monmouthshire and Newport in the new counties of Wales.”ie. the
12 old counties would be replaced by 8 new counties,South Glamorgan.,
Mid Glamorgan.,West Glamorgan. ,Dyfed, Powys,Gwynledd, Clwyd and Gwent. They
omitted to reveal that Gwent was the English county of Monmouthshire.
The committee comprised of 36 MP.s,but no M.P.s from
Monmouthshire,or Newport,were on that committee.

The effect of that sentence was revealed to Parliament four
months later at 5 minutes to midnight, 20.July 1972.,by George Thomas,
Gibson-Watt and Ray Gower (Barry). The”debate” was over in less
than one minute including Gerald Kaufman (Manchester Ardwick)
statement “Am I to take it that an Act of annexation of such
magnitude is to be carried though a sparsely attended House of
Commons on the nod at 5 minutes to midnight on the same basis as
Europe has annexed England,I wish to voice my protest.” The Bill
had the Third reading less than 18 hours later before going to
the Lords and then receiving Royal Assent. There is no record of
the 5 M.P.s representing Monmouthshire,and Newport,Messrs
Kinnock,Foot,Abse,Hughes and Stradling-Thomas speaking one word for or
against, if they were present. As the paragraph was prepared 4
months earlier and there is evidence that indicates they knew
about the paragraph, they could have, during those months, informed
us what was being proposed, held public meetings, consulted their
constituents and held a referendum, but they did not, and have not
given any explanation for their inaction. There is no trace in
Hansard of any protest that they were not aware of that paragraph
prior to 20 July 1972.

That transfer to Wales was the most momentous thing that
happened in Monmouthshire’s history going back 430 years, and
the most important thing that the 5 MP.s presided over during
their careers as MP.s. The fact that they spoke not one word, for
or against, in Parliament and did not make us aware of what was
about to happen, is an abuse of the trust that should exist
between M.P.s and their constituents.

When devolution was proposed we in this county, had repeated
visits from the Prime Minister,his deputy, senior members of all
political parties,M.P.s,and Trade Union leaders, months of radio
and television interviews, numerous articles in national and
local newspapers. That was to transfer a few administrative
powers from England to Wales, but when it was proposed to transfer
an English county, with its population of 400,000 to Wales, we did
not get even a whisper from our M.P.s or Parliament.
What can be said to justify the actions of 4 M.P.s, with no
political connections to Monmouthshire and Newport, being allowed
to override all democratic procedures by misleading statements in
committee and in the commons, resulting in the transfer of
Monmouthshire and Newport.

Northern Ireland,The Falklands,Channel Isles and Gibraltar
have all been told they will not be transferred without a
referendum.

Why was Monmouthshire not given the same
consideration? "

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Is this really the way things should happen in the UK ?