Recreation of Middlesex as a Political County

Britannist · 23-09-2006, 01:48 AM

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Names such as 'Humberside', 'West Midlands', 'Avon', 'Merseyside' and Tyne and Wear' (invented by the disastrous Heath regime) would be wpied from the map of our country. Sutton Coldfield (now in Birmingham) would return to Warwickshire (as would Coventry) and Wolverhamton/Dudley would go back where they belong - to Staffordshire.

Actually quite a lot of Birmingham (not just Sutton Coldfield) would return to Warwickshire with another large chuck going into Worcestershire and a small area going into Staffordshire.

Hello Richard - I know Birmingham/Staffordshire quite well. Do you know which part of the actual City of Birmingham would return to Staffordshire - possibly parts of the Aldridge-Brownhills localities? I've mentioned Dudley and Wolverhamption returning to Staffordshire. There's also the Borough of Walsall (presently part of the 'west' Midlands) which belongs back in Staffordshire too.

I assume that virtually all of what is today's City of Birmingham would go back into Warwicksire, as, of course, would the neighbouring Borough of Solihull.

I think I'm right in saying that Halesowen-Stourbridge were moved by eurofanatic Heath from Worcestershire into the artificial 'west' Midland so-called 'county' and would, therefore, have to be put back where they both belong (in Worcestershire).

Johnny Hates Jazz · 23-09-2006, 08:55 PM

Our Middlesex Chairman - Roger Cooper is currently in touch with Russell Grant to really get this going policitally in the area, if UKIP want to join forces on this one, then you need to make contact with Roger.

Below is Britain in Traditional Counties

abc@historic-counties.org.uk

English Democrats are only concerned with the 40 Counties in England.

Britannist · 23-09-2006, 10:09 PM

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Our Middlesex Chairman - Roger Cooper is currently in touch with Russell Grant to really get this going policitally in the area, if UKIP want to join forces on this one, then you need to make contact with Roger.

Below is Britain in Traditional Counties

abc@historic-counties.org.uk

English Democrats are only concerned with the 40 Counties in England.

It's a truly wonderful map. Exactly as England, Wales and Scotland should be. Nice to see Flintshire in north Wales clearly marked and Lincolnshire with its proper River Humber boundary. Great to see Middlesex (one of the four biggest counties of England in population terms) back on the map.

I want to see the county boundaries of England, Scotland and Wales EXACTLY as shown on the map. Everything that the Heathites did (taking us into the EEC/EU and destroying our 1000 year-old county boundaries) must be undone and reversed.

I've got a map of Middlesex on file somewhere showing Middlesex in full on its proper boundaries (from Potters Bar in the north, to Staines in the south and to Shepperton in the west) with all the towns and localities of the county clearly marked.

Also good to see Rutlandshire back and to see the correct boundaries of Cheshire shown - with Cheshire's border with Yorkshire clearly visible. One of the most forgotten changes brought about by europhile Heath was the removal of the Yorkshire-Cheshire border and the transfer of the eastern section of Cheshire into Derbyshire. I think many Derbyshire folk would like to see that part of their border with Cheshire re-instated.

Richard Allen · 24-09-2006, 12:53 AM

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Names such as 'Humberside', 'West Midlands', 'Avon', 'Merseyside' and Tyne and Wear' (invented by the disastrous Heath regime) would be wpied from the map of our country. Sutton Coldfield (now in Birmingham) would return to Warwickshire (as would Coventry) and Wolverhamton/Dudley would go back where they belong - to Staffordshire.

Actually quite a lot of Birmingham (not just Sutton Coldfield) would return to Warwickshire with another large chuck going into Worcestershire and a small area going into Staffordshire.

Hello Richard - I know Birmingham/Staffordshire quite well. Do you know which part of the actual City of Birmingham would return to Staffordshire - possibly parts of the Aldridge-Brownhills localities? I've mentioned Dudley and Wolverhamption returning to Staffordshire. There's also the Borough of Walsall (presently part of the 'west' Midlands) which belongs back in Staffordshire too.

I assume that virtually all of what is today's City of Birmingham would go back into Warwicksire, as, of course, would the neighbouring Borough of Solihull.

I think I'm right in saying that Halesowen-Stourbridge were moved by eurofanatic Heath from Worcestershire into the artificial 'west' Midland so-called 'county' and would, therefore, have to be put back where they both belong (in Worcestershire).

I have never been able (inspite of considerable effort) to get hold of an old map which shows the precise county borders of Warwickshire, Worcestershire and Staffordshire. From what I can gather however the NW corner of Birmingham (Handsworth and Perry Barr) plus Harborne (to the SW of the city centre) belongs in Staffordshire. The central, northern and eastern areas belong in Warwickshire while the South and remainder of the west belong in Worcestershire.

Aldridge and Brownhills now come under Walsall and definately belong in Staffordshire and you are correct about Halesowen and Stourbridge.

Bryan Parry · 24-09-2006, 02:57 PM

I live in Middlesex. I support this moove.

[EDIT]We need a map like the above one, but more detailed (like a proper map), to be commercially available. I was thinking of doing that, but I wouldn't know where to start.

IceDragon · 24-09-2006, 09:25 PM

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Saddleworth has to be put back in the West Riding.

Maybe with it's gruesome history, nobody wants it?

Saddleworth doesn't have a gruesome history, the moors were above Meltham anyway and they lived in Hattersley.

arden forester · 26-09-2006, 08:37 PM

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as, of course, would the neighbouring Borough of Solihull.

Thank you for the mention! :wink:

Britannist · 26-09-2006, 11:22 PM

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as, of course, would the neighbouring Borough of Solihull.

Thank you for the mention! :wink:

I like Solihull

. It will be even better when the good folk of the Borough remove the europhile Liberal 'Democrat' MP who should not have won the seat in the first place.

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24-09-2006, 02:57 PM	#15 (permalink)
Bryan Parry Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Middlesex, England Posts: 394	I live in Middlesex. I support this moove. [EDIT]We need a map like the above one, but more detailed (like a proper map), to be commercially available. I was thinking of doing that, but I wouldn't know where to start.