Burger Bar Killer Jailed

mkpdavies · 21-09-2006, 07:00 PM

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...234635,00.html

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A sacked employee who killed a grandmother during a revenge attack at a McDonald's restaurant has been jailed for life.

Shane Freer, 21, repeatedly stabbed 56-year-old Jackie Marshall with an eight-inch knife.

He had blamed her for losing his job at the burger bar in Chichester, West Sussex.

Horrible, sick and then right at the end.

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Mentally-ill Freer, who has Asperger syndrome, had denied murder but admitted manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility.

extra ordinary · 21-09-2006, 10:51 PM

yes where does the criminal act end and the mad mental patient begin.

seems it is best to say you are mad if you caught doing a murder.

of course there are the violent insane. but whatever, these types do not have a right to freedom.

IceDragon · 22-09-2006, 07:02 PM

I notice a lot of times when a murderer has attempted to use insanity as a defence the judge and legal experts have declared the accused to be sane. They are then found guilty and then promptly sent to Broadmoor.

B.A.Ware · 22-09-2006, 07:15 PM

This what you get when you close all of the mental hospitals.They call it care in the community, i call it saving money.

Besoeker · 22-09-2006, 11:06 PM

Horrific.

Difficult in some ways. Should someone suffering from AS (known difficulties with social interaction) really have been given a job in a fast food place? Did McDonalds know about his disorder prior to employing him? It would seem that it was a known condition for this guy.

On a slightly different tack, surely ANYONE who commits murder is mentally deranged to some extent. It isn't an activity that many of us routinely engage in. It simply isn't normal behaviour. Thus, it is abnormal. And, since it is so rare, it must be very abnormal. And socially unacceptable.

So we have very abnormal, very rare, and socially unacceptable acts.
That makes me question the sanity of those who commits such acts.

Just my musings. I'm not suggesting that insanity is a reasonable defence or mitigating circumstance in most cases.

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21-09-2006, 10:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
extra ordinary Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: south east Posts: 196	yes where does the criminal act end and the mad mental patient begin. seems it is best to say you are mad if you caught doing a murder. of course there are the violent insane. but whatever, these types do not have a right to freedom.

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IceDragon Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,048	I notice a lot of times when a murderer has attempted to use insanity as a defence the judge and legal experts have declared the accused to be sane. They are then found guilty and then promptly sent to Broadmoor.

22-09-2006, 11:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
Besoeker Uber Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,982	Horrific. Difficult in some ways. Should someone suffering from AS (known difficulties with social interaction) really have been given a job in a fast food place? Did McDonalds know about his disorder prior to employing him? It would seem that it was a known condition for this guy. On a slightly different tack, surely ANYONE who commits murder is mentally deranged to some extent. It isn't an activity that many of us routinely engage in. It simply isn't normal behaviour. Thus, it is abnormal. And, since it is so rare, it must be very abnormal. And socially unacceptable. So we have very abnormal, very rare, and socially unacceptable acts. That makes me question the sanity of those who commits such acts. Just my musings. I'm not suggesting that insanity is a reasonable defence or mitigating circumstance in most cases.