Anonymous coward slags off UKIP on Tory Forum

BASILDON BOY · 17-09-2006, 03:40 PM

http://www.ukipforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=14360

We need to send Nigel to Scotland ro rub the noses of the administration in it after the EU blocked their plans to cut firms business rates! This is a great way to expose the fact that Scotland is chained by EU red tape.

So much has happened in Scotland recently and it would be great for UKIP to break away from the South East and be seen as a national party.

So come on Nigel and come on UKIP lets get moving on this issue and capatalise it for all its worth!!!

Hartlepool · 17-09-2006, 05:04 PM

Maybe him and hie entourage could drop in on the NE Branches on the same trip.

He/UKIP certainly need to do something like this around the UK.

BASILDON BOY · 17-09-2006, 05:08 PM

This would be a great issue to attack the EU on and show how the Scottish Parliament is bound by EU red tape - and the SNP, Labour and the LibDems have sold residents the idea of a parliament that is nuetered by the EU. This issues is live so Nigel and UKIP high command needs to get their scates on pretty quickly to exploit this news story!

andypandy · 17-09-2006, 09:06 PM

Part of the problem with UKIP MEPs and their saleries, is at the time of their first election in 1999, it was assumed that a substantial part of their income would go straight back into party funds, especially in helping the establishment and running of branches. (at least as told to me by a UKIP activist at that time in Merseyside)

Unfortunately, the only ones that appear to have benefitted from their saleries are the MEPs themselves. Clearly, the intracies of actually being a Member of the European Parliament representing a party dedicated to getting Britain out of it, were not fully understood from the word go, and it has left each MEP to effectively decide how they determine their particular circumstances and payment of monies to the party they represent.

Maybe a legal document should have been drawn up at the time requiring each candidate elected to commit to a minimum of financial support, however achieved within any legal confines of actually being an MEP, thus solving long-term this argument from the word go. This would have effectively been a private agreement between the party and the candidate, and could probably only be enforced in the civil courts, as we have seen with the likes of Michael Holmes, Kilroy etc, there is nothing to actually stop an MEP from withdrawing support from the party they were elected to support.

Populist Lee · 18-09-2006, 12:14 AM

Quote:

(Nigel was on the Politics Show within the past couple of hours apparently - does that count for anything?)

Not really.
How many voters watch the "Politics Show"?

ryansoton · 19-09-2006, 12:24 AM

If we are wasting that amount of money I ahve a new policy for us.

We can join the EPP pay a membership fee which go towards producing propaganda campaigns for the Euro, EU Constitution and a federal europe.

Oh sorry that is already Tory policy wouldnt want to pinch their ideas!!!!!

17-09-2006, 03:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
BASILDON BOY Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: N'Djamena, Chad Posts: 1,799	http://www.ukipforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=14360 We need to send Nigel to Scotland ro rub the noses of the administration in it after the EU blocked their plans to cut firms business rates! This is a great way to expose the fact that Scotland is chained by EU red tape. So much has happened in Scotland recently and it would be great for UKIP to break away from the South East and be seen as a national party. So come on Nigel and come on UKIP lets get moving on this issue and capatalise it for all its worth!!! __________________ Mike Nattrass MEP is HOT HOT HOT!!!

17-09-2006, 05:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
BASILDON BOY Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: N'Djamena, Chad Posts: 1,799	This would be a great issue to attack the EU on and show how the Scottish Parliament is bound by EU red tape - and the SNP, Labour and the LibDems have sold residents the idea of a parliament that is nuetered by the EU. This issues is live so Nigel and UKIP high command needs to get their scates on pretty quickly to exploit this news story! __________________ Mike Nattrass MEP is HOT HOT HOT!!!

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

17-09-2006, 05:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,785 Party: Free England Party	Maybe him and hie entourage could drop in on the NE Branches on the same trip. He/UKIP certainly need to do something like this around the UK.

17-09-2006, 09:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
andypandy Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 880	Part of the problem with UKIP MEPs and their saleries, is at the time of their first election in 1999, it was assumed that a substantial part of their income would go straight back into party funds, especially in helping the establishment and running of branches. (at least as told to me by a UKIP activist at that time in Merseyside) Unfortunately, the only ones that appear to have benefitted from their saleries are the MEPs themselves. Clearly, the intracies of actually being a Member of the European Parliament representing a party dedicated to getting Britain out of it, were not fully understood from the word go, and it has left each MEP to effectively decide how they determine their particular circumstances and payment of monies to the party they represent. Maybe a legal document should have been drawn up at the time requiring each candidate elected to commit to a minimum of financial support, however achieved within any legal confines of actually being an MEP, thus solving long-term this argument from the word go. This would have effectively been a private agreement between the party and the candidate, and could probably only be enforced in the civil courts, as we have seen with the likes of Michael Holmes, Kilroy etc, there is nothing to actually stop an MEP from withdrawing support from the party they were elected to support.

19-09-2006, 12:24 AM	#16 (permalink)
ryansoton Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Southampton Posts: 781 Party: Other	If we are wasting that amount of money I ahve a new policy for us. We can join the EPP pay a membership fee which go towards producing propaganda campaigns for the Euro, EU Constitution and a federal europe. Oh sorry that is already Tory policy wouldnt want to pinch their ideas!!!!!