Child booster seats.

mkpdavies · 15-09-2006, 03:19 PM

Every home must have an "autobath" installed.

This will run the bath to just the right temperature and lower the person in, thus preventing nasty falls.

Also, appliances that make flames, (cookers, ovens, fireplaces etc), will become illegal. People keep on burning their housed down, thus can't be trusted.

Every member of public must purchase a giant cotton wool case, which they will wrap themselves in and wait for government workers to come and feed them and take their **** bottles away from.

THE PUBLIC MUST BE MADE SAFE AT ALL COSTS!

arden forester · 15-09-2006, 11:01 PM

mkpdavies

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The parents are responsible for their children. The state should advise where there is important information, but ordering people to wrap things in cotton wool isn't the answer.

What should the parents say to their children about OTHER drivers?

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A lorry driver who was using his mobile phone just before he smashed into a stationary car and killed a 23-year-old woman has been jailed for four years.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...re/5252872.stm

I'm all in favour of responsibilties, and keeping the nanny state at bay. But you can't seriously be thinking that people can drive as they wish without SOME legal redress from the authorities?

mkpdavies · 16-09-2006, 07:54 AM

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But you can't seriously be thinking that people can drive as they wish without SOME legal redress from the authorities?

If they are a threat to OTHERS (IE not the people in their car), then no.

I disagree with seatbelts being forced on people.

I disagree with crash helmets being forced on people.

If there is a clear case of reckless behaviour, such as driving while ****** or stoned. Or even if people drive recklessly for a given situation (that can include speed in certain circumstances). Then of course they are putting people at uncessary risk.

With children, the parent whould be the one to decide what is best for THEIR kid. You can prepare for all kinds of possible accidents that may or may not happen, that's a judgement call for people to make, not government.

Of course if you have parents abusing thier children etc, then they should be punished, but other than that, it's their kid and they are responsible for them.

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What should the parents say to their children about OTHER drivers?

Whatever they deem fit. Their kids, their call.

John Carter · 16-09-2006, 10:40 AM

Never mind... ...it just means that in 6-8 years' time there's gonna be a whole load of newbie voters who hate the party which made them sit in "those embarrassing kiddie seats".

mkpdavies · 16-09-2006, 10:57 AM

I wish that was true, but I fear they will just not vote, rather than vote against the Troika, thus the Troika just get in via 10% of the population instead of 20 odd % like now.

brian pearson · 16-09-2006, 12:25 PM

All of this safety facism is counterproductive. Roads now have so many barriers, warning signs etc. We are forced to wear seatbelts and helmets and drive cars with airbags. This all lulls us to think pedestrians are seperated from cars and we are all invinsible.

A spike in the steering wheel would do more for road safety and if all the ugly railings were removed drivers would appreciate the closeness of people on foot. But theres no jobs in that.

Dragging kids out of cars to measure them at roadblocks ! It's easier than chasing crims.

mkpdavies · 17-09-2006, 08:57 AM

http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thre...209&#paginator

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Added: Friday, 15 September, 2006, 07:50 GMT 08:50 UK

Another new law from this failing government to keep the people down. We have too many civil servants with nothing better to do than dream up new ways to frighten us. We are constantly being hit with initiatives that will make life 'better' for us all. They are usually couched in terms that suggest that any dissent from the proposed view is an act of ignorance or stupidity, and always backed up by a dubious claim of how many lives will be saved. Being alive is a dangerous occupation. Why not have us all put down at birth to avoid any accidents in later life!

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Added: Friday, 15 September, 2006, 24:20 GMT 01:20 UK

The government should mandate that everyone has to live in a padded sun-proof, bullet proof, badness proof sphere. That way we will be able to "live" in a way that we are completely safe from the effects of any decision we might make.

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Added: Friday, 15 September, 2006, 07:49 GMT 08:49 UK

Another example of this government deciding policy on the hoof, generally it is a good idea that will save childrens lives but a little more thought about how you pick up a friends or neighbours child at short notice & you have no time to go and buy a booster seat first might have been a good idea.

Maybe we we can ask every child to carry a booster seat, or might it have been more sensible to ask motor manufacturers to design adjustable seat belts for their cars?

[Syni_Cal], Manchester, United Kingdom

That last comment made me laugh. Made up on the hoof? If only these poor, gullable wretches knew.

Bluemerle · 17-09-2006, 09:29 AM

Some little old ladies are no bigger than 10 year olds, perhaps they should be made to sit in booster seats, oh and what about the vertically challenged (dwarfs in non PC language).

arden forester · 18-09-2006, 05:35 PM

If those advocating voluntary use of seat belts (ie no use at all) get bodily smashed up, am I expected to feel OK about the use of NHS resources to fix them up? It seems a selfish attitude, rather than responsible one.

I have been in an accident where my use of a seat belt was a blessed relief. If I had a smashed face would you all be saying "good on you" as I went off to A&E looking for a doctor's help?

Vehicles on the road have increased 10-fold over the last 40 years. It seems only a rational policy to try to REDUCE accidents and personal injury rather than be in favour of "do as you please" and devil take the hindmost! :shock:

mkpdavies · 18-09-2006, 05:45 PM

That's something you and your insurance company should have to work out.

They might want to make it a condition of your policy, or whatever.

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16-09-2006, 10:40 AM	#14 (permalink)
John Carter Uber Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Sabbatical Posts: 5,110	Never mind... ...it just means that in 6-8 years' time there's gonna be a whole load of newbie voters who hate the party which made them sit in "those embarrassing kiddie seats".

16-09-2006, 12:25 PM	#16 (permalink)
brian pearson Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: nottinghanshire Posts: 744	All of this safety facism is counterproductive. Roads now have so many barriers, warning signs etc. We are forced to wear seatbelts and helmets and drive cars with airbags. This all lulls us to think pedestrians are seperated from cars and we are all invinsible. A spike in the steering wheel would do more for road safety and if all the ugly railings were removed drivers would appreciate the closeness of people on foot. But theres no jobs in that. Dragging kids out of cars to measure them at roadblocks ! It's easier than chasing crims.

17-09-2006, 09:29 AM	#18 (permalink)
Bluemerle Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dorset. Posts: 3,252	Some little old ladies are no bigger than 10 year olds, perhaps they should be made to sit in booster seats, oh and what about the vertically challenged (dwarfs in non PC language).

18-09-2006, 05:35 PM	#19 (permalink)
arden forester Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Solihull, in The Forest of Arden, Warwickshire! Posts: 2,662 Party: None	If those advocating voluntary use of seat belts (ie no use at all) get bodily smashed up, am I expected to feel OK about the use of NHS resources to fix them up? It seems a selfish attitude, rather than responsible one. I have been in an accident where my use of a seat belt was a blessed relief. If I had a smashed face would you all be saying "good on you" as I went off to A&E looking for a doctor's help? Vehicles on the road have increased 10-fold over the last 40 years. It seems only a rational policy to try to REDUCE accidents and personal injury rather than be in favour of "do as you please" and devil take the hindmost! :shock: