Drive on hard shoulder

mkpdavies · 31-08-2006, 05:12 PM

I agree with that.

John Carter · 31-08-2006, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

The reason it will not be popular is it isn't the right thing.

It's something Neo Labout might come out with, with their control freakery.

As usual getting the balance right it most important. A tough, real test to start with is fair.

Maybe there is a case for some extra testing when you hit 60 or something, but anything more than that is too close to the nanny state.

Actually, the re-sit the test every few years was just to remove some of the existing drivers from the roads (i.e. solve this traffic problem) - to make up for all the years where they've been giving licences out with birth certificates.

John Carter · 31-08-2006, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by B.A.Ware

Give tax incentives for haulage to travel at night.

So everyone is kept up at night by lorries driving along their nearest road? No thanks!

mkpdavies · 31-08-2006, 06:08 PM

They do it anyway.

Hartlepool · 31-08-2006, 06:11 PM

Overnight more low priority cargo by rail.

Gets vehicles off the roads and supports railways.

Colin McNamee · 31-08-2006, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hartlepool

Overnight more low priority cargo by rail.

Gets vehicles off the roads and supports railways.

Railways and canals, use the bloody canals. Aggregate, concrete (not mixed !), coal (what's left of it) etc.

Hartlepool · 31-08-2006, 06:47 PM

If we build any more houses we'll need all that water in those canals to drink.

Better to drain them all and put sound concrete bases in them to be used for cycles and horse drawn carriages to run on because thats where we're headed as the rate of deterioration accelorates in this country.

Robin · 31-08-2006, 07:18 PM

Lorries to drive at night?

Can be done if the whole economy changes over to the night shift.

Zak64 · 01-09-2006, 09:34 PM

I don't think we are using our motorways properly anyway. Becase the driving test omited motorway driving for so long we are cursed with a plague of middle lane drivers. I don't think middle lane driving is dangerous per se, what it does do is frustrate drivers who understand lane discipline, cause bunching/tailgating. It could be dangerous when a driver forced into overtaking in lane three suffers some sudden catastrophic failure, and then has to cross two lanes of traffic to reach the comparative safety of the hard shoulder. I have had an engine seizure on a motorway, and someone had a tyre blow out in front of me once, ending up with their bonnet wedged under the crash barrier. It also wastes 700 miles of motorway each day, according to reports/research in the media.

The highway code says that lanes 2 (IE 'middle') and 3 (IE 'fast') lanes are for overtaking ONLY. Sadly millions of drivers seem to be unaware of this fact, and sit in lane 2 all day, even if lane 1 (IE 'the slow or lorry' lane) is free and unocuppied for several miles in front of them.

Shouldn't we have an education campaign first ? A series of ads, puublicity campaign, whatever. Ok middle lane hogging will never become the new drink driving, who would want it to ? The fact remains because of poor driver training we are wasting hundreds of miles of motorway.

The only problem I see is that the government cannot fleece the public for millions with it, it would cost them money. Not much chance of that happening then. :roll:

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31-08-2006, 06:11 PM	#25 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,574	Overnight more low priority cargo by rail. Gets vehicles off the roads and supports railways.

31-08-2006, 06:47 PM	#27 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,574	If we build any more houses we'll need all that water in those canals to drink. Better to drain them all and put sound concrete bases in them to be used for cycles and horse drawn carriages to run on because thats where we're headed as the rate of deterioration accelorates in this country.

31-08-2006, 07:18 PM	#28 (permalink)
Robin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 759	Lorries to drive at night? Can be done if the whole economy changes over to the night shift.

01-09-2006, 09:34 PM	#29 (permalink)
Zak64 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Poland On Sea (Bournemouth) Posts: 679	I don't think we are using our motorways properly anyway. Becase the driving test omited motorway driving for so long we are cursed with a plague of middle lane drivers. I don't think middle lane driving is dangerous per se, what it does do is frustrate drivers who understand lane discipline, cause bunching/tailgating. It could be dangerous when a driver forced into overtaking in lane three suffers some sudden catastrophic failure, and then has to cross two lanes of traffic to reach the comparative safety of the hard shoulder. I have had an engine seizure on a motorway, and someone had a tyre blow out in front of me once, ending up with their bonnet wedged under the crash barrier. It also wastes 700 miles of motorway each day, according to reports/research in the media. The highway code says that lanes 2 (IE 'middle') and 3 (IE 'fast') lanes are for overtaking ONLY. Sadly millions of drivers seem to be unaware of this fact, and sit in lane 2 all day, even if lane 1 (IE 'the slow or lorry' lane) is free and unocuppied for several miles in front of them. Shouldn't we have an education campaign first ? A series of ads, puublicity campaign, whatever. Ok middle lane hogging will never become the new drink driving, who would want it to ? The fact remains because of poor driver training we are wasting hundreds of miles of motorway. The only problem I see is that the government cannot fleece the public for millions with it, it would cost them money. Not much chance of that happening then. :roll: