Veritas Party Chairman Resigns

Inquizitor · 24-01-2006, 06:17 PM

Veritas Party Chairman Arthur D Hodgson has resigned with immediate effect, well what happened there then.

mkpdavies · 24-01-2006, 06:23 PM

I was wondering why it was taking so long.

C_steam · 24-01-2006, 06:30 PM

worried about a rent boy episode in his past coming to light when veritoss gain power, I reckon.

Tashry · 27-01-2006, 10:50 AM

Looks like Veritas is dying, slowly but surely.

vikingboy · 27-01-2006, 08:17 PM

Was Veritas ever ALIVE? Really, this excuse for a political party must be going down as the most media-hyped and rapidly declining, new party, EVER to hit the hustings in modern political history. Kilroy's legacy is a disgrace and an insult to those that took the plunge INTO phpbb_what they thought was going to be a ground breaking movement.

Kilroy (through UKIP) was nothing more than a ploy to stop the BNP during the Euro 2004 elections. If anyone thinks that UKIP 'deserved' its 2 and half million votes in 2004 (allegedly due to the "Kilroy factor"), then they are really deluding themselves. The real standing of UKIP nationally was demonstrated in 2005 when their English vote fell by nearly 80%. Veritas simply served as yet another establishment attempt to shoot down UKIP, once UKIP served its anti-BNP agenda. Me thinks that Kilroy was effectively a stooge put in place to fragment and disorientate the far-right (that DOES include UKIP), to which he seems to have done an excellent job.

The fact that he can barely bother to turn up to attend Euro Parliament meetings shows his relative contempt, not for the EU, but for the people that elected him.

C_steam · 27-01-2006, 08:36 PM

I'll agree para's one and three, but really para two could be a lot more succinct.

You could have just written "The BNP did not perform well in the 2004 Euro elections - it was all Kilroy's fault"

And if you believe that, you'll believe anything.

Edward Longshanks · 28-01-2006, 06:12 PM

Well Kilroy's been in the Labour party, UKIP (got a nice little earner out of that one, reduced the BNP vote), launched Veritas, destabilising UKIP in the process, splitting the vote in a number of constituences and then jacked it all in. Mission accomplished methinks. :wink:

Who's next I wonder. off to Northern Ireland to join the Orangemen?

zelger · 29-01-2006, 11:30 AM

It was common knowledge that UKIP sudden rise of media prolific interest was simply there as a prevention method of the BNP.

Equally, we can't expect UKIPERS on here to buy that argument. because well...for the obvious reason of human nature.

As a BNP member and UKIP member, i suspect there is a little 'visions of grandeur' on both sides.

C_steam · 29-01-2006, 11:45 AM

Quote:

It was common knowledge

This is what is known as argumentum ad populum - giving credence to an argument by stating 'most people think' or 'our survey shows' etc etc. In this case you state "it was common knowledge" - common infering that many people knew this to be a true fact.

Please show how this was indeed 'common knowledge' - without referring to blogs of dubious value and with no basis in true fact beyond one persons opinion, which, of course, is very different to 'knowledge' - common or otherwise.

John Page · 29-01-2006, 12:28 PM

Quote:

It was common knowledge that UKIP sudden rise of media prolific interest was simply there as a prevention method of the BNP.

Equally, we can't expect UKIPERS on here to buy that argument. because well...for the obvious reason of human nature.

As a BNP member and UKIP member, i suspect there is a little 'visions of grandeur' on both sides.

Can you translate your first paragraph INTO phpbb_English?

This argumentum ad populum is a favoured device of Gordon Brown's, so you're in pretty doubtful company.

So it seems are we. Personally I wouldn't have BNP members in UKIP.

24-01-2006, 06:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
Inquizitor Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 30	Veritas Party Chairman Resigns Veritas Party Chairman Arthur D Hodgson has resigned with immediate effect, well what happened there then.

24-01-2006, 06:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,831 Party: Libertarian Party	I was wondering why it was taking so long. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

27-01-2006, 08:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
vikingboy Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 29	veritas chairman resigns Was Veritas ever ALIVE? Really, this excuse for a political party must be going down as the most media-hyped and rapidly declining, new party, EVER to hit the hustings in modern political history. Kilroy's legacy is a disgrace and an insult to those that took the plunge INTO phpbb_what they thought was going to be a ground breaking movement. Kilroy (through UKIP) was nothing more than a ploy to stop the BNP during the Euro 2004 elections. If anyone thinks that UKIP 'deserved' its 2 and half million votes in 2004 (allegedly due to the "Kilroy factor"), then they are really deluding themselves. The real standing of UKIP nationally was demonstrated in 2005 when their English vote fell by nearly 80%. Veritas simply served as yet another establishment attempt to shoot down UKIP, once UKIP served its anti-BNP agenda. Me thinks that Kilroy was effectively a stooge put in place to fragment and disorientate the far-right (that DOES include UKIP), to which he seems to have done an excellent job. The fact that he can barely bother to turn up to attend Euro Parliament meetings shows his relative contempt, not for the EU, but for the people that elected him.

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24-01-2006, 06:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
C_steam Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Paddling up 5hit creek..... Posts: 7,704	worried about a rent boy episode in his past coming to light when veritoss gain power, I reckon.

27-01-2006, 10:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
Tashry Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London Posts: 382	Looks like Veritas is dying, slowly but surely.

27-01-2006, 08:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
C_steam Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Paddling up 5hit creek..... Posts: 7,704	I'll agree para's one and three, but really para two could be a lot more succinct. You could have just written "The BNP did not perform well in the 2004 Euro elections - it was all Kilroy's fault" And if you believe that, you'll believe anything.

28-01-2006, 06:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
Edward Longshanks Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bucks Posts: 625	Well Kilroy's been in the Labour party, UKIP (got a nice little earner out of that one, reduced the BNP vote), launched Veritas, destabilising UKIP in the process, splitting the vote in a number of constituences and then jacked it all in. Mission accomplished methinks. :wink: Who's next I wonder. off to Northern Ireland to join the Orangemen?

29-01-2006, 11:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
zelger Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 6	It was common knowledge that UKIP sudden rise of media prolific interest was simply there as a prevention method of the BNP. Equally, we can't expect UKIPERS on here to buy that argument. because well...for the obvious reason of human nature. As a BNP member and UKIP member, i suspect there is a little 'visions of grandeur' on both sides.