Veritas Party Chairman Resigns

Edward Longshanks · 31-01-2006, 05:58 PM

Who needs Kilroy when you've got Mr Charisma Roger Knapman!

IceDragon · 01-02-2006, 05:40 PM

The UKIP needs someone with an idea which can be sold to the British.. English people. A big idea, not just negotiating a withdrawal from the EU, the average person does not understand the EU.

Someone who can captivate the electorate, someone with charisma, also someone who doesn't have any bent secrets waiting to be exposed by a national newspaper.

B.A.Ware · 01-02-2006, 07:24 PM

Like him or hate him he got our message out to the people and the membership figures bear this out :cry:

Hartlepool · 01-02-2006, 07:48 PM

You mean someone like,Victor Meldrew or SEF?

Toque · 03-02-2006, 04:41 AM

The trouble with UKIP is that they are so focussed on the EU that they ignore the fact that the pressure to regionalise is now coming from constitutional imbalance within the UK.

Here's an extract from Robert Hazell's new paper that illustrates my point:

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But it is one thing to create such a federation, quite another to make it work. The fundamental difficulty is the sheer size of England by comparison with the rest of the United Kingdom. England, with four-fifths of the population, would be hugely dominant. On most domestic matters the English parliament would be more important than the Westminster parliament. No federation has operated successfully where one of the units is so dominant. Examples are the West Indies federation, in which Jamaica had more than half the population, and the first Nigerian federation and early Pakistan, where in both cases one of the states had more than half the population. In the postwar German federal constitution of 1949, Prussia was deliberately broken up INTO phpbb_five or six different states to prevent it being disproportionately large and dominating the new Germany. Although all federations have some units much larger than others, as a general rule among existing federations no unit is greater than around one-third of the whole, to avoid it dominating the rest. If this logic were accepted, England would need to be broken up INTO phpbb_smaller units for a federal solution to work--something that is anathema to the Campaign for an English Parliament.

UKIP see English nationalists as the enemy and in doing so they play straight INTO phpbb_Blair's hands. UKIP should be joining with the Campaign for an English Parliament to counter regionalism.

tyke · 05-02-2006, 08:35 PM

You're absolutely right, Toque, but they can't see in two dimensions, unfortunately.

C_steam · 05-02-2006, 09:40 PM

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UKIP see English nationalists as the enemy

Nope. Absolutely no where in our manifesto does it say that.

Toque · 07-02-2006, 08:20 PM

It doesn't say it anywhere in the manifesto but it has been made abundantly clear in a letter that I received from Jeffery Titford and in a conversation that I had with Nigel Farrage at the Campaign for an English Parliament Conference.

Anyway, better late than never http://www.independenceuk.org.uk/uki...hp?t=1&id=1898

A solution that won't be acceptable to the Scots, but at least UKIP have set out on the road to enlightenment.

07-02-2006, 08:20 PM	#28 (permalink)
Toque Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lewes Posts: 61	It doesn't say it anywhere in the manifesto but it has been made abundantly clear in a letter that I received from Jeffery Titford and in a conversation that I had with Nigel Farrage at the Campaign for an English Parliament Conference. Anyway, better late than never http://www.independenceuk.org.uk/uki...hp?t=1&id=1898 A solution that won't be acceptable to the Scots, but at least UKIP have set out on the road to enlightenment. __________________ Toque

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31-01-2006, 05:58 PM	#21 (permalink)
Edward Longshanks Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bucks Posts: 625	Who needs Kilroy when you've got Mr Charisma Roger Knapman!

01-02-2006, 05:40 PM	#22 (permalink)
IceDragon Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,048	The UKIP needs someone with an idea which can be sold to the British.. English people. A big idea, not just negotiating a withdrawal from the EU, the average person does not understand the EU. Someone who can captivate the electorate, someone with charisma, also someone who doesn't have any bent secrets waiting to be exposed by a national newspaper.

01-02-2006, 07:24 PM	#23 (permalink)
B.A.Ware Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Birmingham Posts: 4,159 Party: UKIP	Like him or hate him he got our message out to the people and the membership figures bear this out :cry:

01-02-2006, 07:48 PM	#24 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,605 Party: Free England Party	You mean someone like,Victor Meldrew or SEF?

05-02-2006, 08:35 PM	#26 (permalink)
tyke Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 240	You're absolutely right, Toque, but they can't see in two dimensions, unfortunately.