Clarke is getting mauled

mkpdavies · 20-12-2004, 05:34 PM

The debate on ID cards is a one-sided farce. Clarke has no argument, and he is being made to look silly. At least Blunkett would have had a bit of a go back!

If the MP's vote for this after this pathetic display, we will all know that it is all a farce, and we might as well just appoint Blair as dictator proper and let him do whatever he wants.

mkpdavies · 20-12-2004, 05:40 PM

Kate Howey should join UKIP. She is against the EU and has now come out against ID cards too.

How can anyone still support a party, when these kind of fundamental issues are at stake?

Oh I forgot, self-preservation!

James StGeorge · 20-12-2004, 11:59 PM

Self interest prevails in Parliament though, MPs voted by 385 votes to 93 in favour of the scheme.

It is interesting to note that misuse by any official will bring a 2 year jail sentence. Rather clearly demonstrating that it is an evil system designed for misuse, but only in official hands!

cynic · 21-12-2004, 05:34 PM

Davis looked really uncomfortable spouting on about ID cards. Did I see teeth marks on his neck?

mkpdavies · 23-12-2004, 12:57 AM

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/pol...p?story=595135

Quote:

Charles Clarke, the new Home Secretary, lashed out yesterday at the "Luddite" opponents of identity cards for spreading scare stories as he mounted a vigorous defence of the controversial legislation.

What a master statesman Clarke is. If a mass of people disagree with you, that ID cards are not any use, and the bad far outweighs the good, then riddicule and abuse them INTO phpbb_submission. Sorry but all you will get from me by taking that attitude is the same back, you fat, big eared **** licker.

:roll:

I'm not even against technology at all, so he hasn't even got his abuse right!

Intbel · 24-12-2004, 02:51 AM

I am pleased to see that Ashford (Kent) MP Damien Green (Cons.) voted against the ID cards.

mkpdavies · 24-12-2004, 03:26 AM

Woking Conservative career merchant and yes-man, Humphrey Malins, voted a hearty yay to ID cards.

I wrote him a letter and he gave me the party line ended it with the line that the election was a straight fight between the Conservatives and Labour. Amazing arogance and making me more determined to help defeat him in anyway I can!

Intbel · 24-12-2004, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Woking Conservative career merchant and yes-man, Humphrey Malins, voted a hearty yay to ID cards.

I wrote him a letter and he gave me the party line ended it with the line that the election was a straight fight between the Conservatives and Labour. Amazing arogance and making me more determined to help defeat him in anyway I can!

Only one thing wrong with that - Conservatives and Labour ain't fighting - they appear to agree on all major issues.

20-12-2004, 05:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,832 Party: Libertarian Party	Clarke is getting mauled The debate on ID cards is a one-sided farce. Clarke has no argument, and he is being made to look silly. At least Blunkett would have had a bit of a go back! If the MP's vote for this after this pathetic display, we will all know that it is all a farce, and we might as well just appoint Blair as dictator proper and let him do whatever he wants. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

20-12-2004, 05:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,832 Party: Libertarian Party	Kate Howey should join UKIP. She is against the EU and has now come out against ID cards too. How can anyone still support a party, when these kind of fundamental issues are at stake? Oh I forgot, self-preservation! __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

21-12-2004, 05:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
cynic Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 127	Neck and Neck Davis looked really uncomfortable spouting on about ID cards. Did I see teeth marks on his neck?

24-12-2004, 02:51 AM	#6 (permalink)
Intbel Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a field near you - look for the yellow and purple tent ... Posts: 4,665	I am pleased to see that Ashford (Kent) MP Damien Green (Cons.) voted against the ID cards. __________________ We are all free to choose - every step of the way - no exceptions.

24-12-2004, 03:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,832 Party: Libertarian Party	Woking Conservative career merchant and yes-man, Humphrey Malins, voted a hearty yay to ID cards. I wrote him a letter and he gave me the party line ended it with the line that the election was a straight fight between the Conservatives and Labour. Amazing arogance and making me more determined to help defeat him in anyway I can! __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

20-12-2004, 11:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
James StGeorge Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 65	Self interest prevails in Parliament though, MPs voted by 385 votes to 93 in favour of the scheme. It is interesting to note that misuse by any official will bring a 2 year jail sentence. Rather clearly demonstrating that it is an evil system designed for misuse, but only in official hands!

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