Drunken revellers face £80 fines, Merry Xmas!

mkpdavies · 17-12-2004, 04:33 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4103395.stm

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Drunken revellers caught misbehaving face on-the-spot fines during a festive crackdown on binge drinking in 188 communities across the country.

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Police in England and Wales will be handing out £80 fines to people caught fighting, urinating or being sick in the street, the government has warned.

So chums, no being sick if you have had too many beers this Xmas, as you will have to pay for it. Also no urinating, even if it is up a tree where 5000 dogs have been previously!

Not a money making scheme at all, just trying to make sure we don't have another nightmare Xmas like previous years eh! :roll:

Intbel · 18-12-2004, 05:15 AM

Whom is kidding whom?

If ya gotta go ya gotta go and no fine can prevent nature taking its course.

If there ain't a public toilet open where you are at 2.00am what are you supposed to do?

As to drunkeness - fines will not prevent this for fines only come INTO phpbb_effect after the event.

It is high time those who serve alcohol took some responsibility for continuing to serve alcohol to folks who have already had enough.

Nationalist · 18-12-2004, 09:15 AM

I agree, serving people who are blatantly legless should be stopped.

mkpdavies · 18-12-2004, 09:38 AM

But that won't make the government any money, think again!

Intbel · 18-12-2004, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

But that won't make the government any money, think again!

Wanna bet?

Think of all the fines which could be imposed for disorderly conduct when folks are denied booze by a buxom serving wench or her landlord.

Carl Faulkner · 18-12-2004, 10:28 AM

...again, another spineless money orientated attempt at getting people to behave responsibly.

Why not keep things simple. Restrict the times and places where alcohol can be bought and raise the age limit to 21 years for purchases not to be consumed on the premises.

Carl Faulkner · 18-12-2004, 10:36 AM

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I agree, serving people who are blatantly legless should be stopped

...but will the Disability Discrimination Act allow it to happen?

C_steam · 18-12-2004, 10:54 AM

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serving people who are blatantly legless should be stopped

It IS currently illegal to serve alcohol to people who are clearly drunk.

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Sale of alcohol to a person who is drunk

(1) A person to whom subsection (2) applies commits an offence if, on relevant premises, he knowingly-

(a) sells or attempts to sell alcohol to a person who is drunk, or
(b) allows alcohol to be sold to such a person.
(2) This subsection applies-

(a) to any person who works at the premises in a capacity, whether paid or unpaid, which gives him authority to sell the alcohol concerned,
(b) in the case of licensed premises, to-
(i) the holder of a premises licence in respect of the premises, and
(ii) the designated premises supervisor (if any) under such a licence,

Licensing act 2003, part 7, para 141 refers.

C_steam · 18-12-2004, 11:01 AM

And a footnote to the above. My Daughter is a bar supervisor (she told me the above). Part of her duties include ensuring staff work within the above guidelines and to use the doorstaff to eject people who ARE drunk.

Doorstaff also have a duty to prevent entry to drunk people. Her company (a national chain) work to these rules since:-

a) It makes everyone's job easier.
b) They want to keep their licence! (Taking 30 - 50K per weekend evening tends to focus the mind a little....)
c) Local police are quite hot on the subject.

Carl Faulkner · 18-12-2004, 11:02 AM

...but in a busy pub with others buying drinks in a round, the law (and its authors) suddenly become an ass.

18-12-2004, 05:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
Intbel Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a field near you - look for the yellow and purple tent ... Posts: 4,665	'Tis not only Brussels taking our P.... Whom is kidding whom? If ya gotta go ya gotta go and no fine can prevent nature taking its course. If there ain't a public toilet open where you are at 2.00am what are you supposed to do? As to drunkeness - fines will not prevent this for fines only come INTO phpbb_effect after the event. It is high time those who serve alcohol took some responsibility for continuing to serve alcohol to folks who have already had enough. __________________ We are all free to choose - every step of the way - no exceptions.

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18-12-2004, 09:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
Nationalist Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 82	I agree, serving people who are blatantly legless should be stopped.

18-12-2004, 10:28 AM	#6 (permalink)
Carl Faulkner Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 352	...again, another spineless money orientated attempt at getting people to behave responsibly. Why not keep things simple. Restrict the times and places where alcohol can be bought and raise the age limit to 21 years for purchases not to be consumed on the premises.

18-12-2004, 11:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
C_steam Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Anwhere far away from the cabalistas Posts: 7,455	And a footnote to the above. My Daughter is a bar supervisor (she told me the above). Part of her duties include ensuring staff work within the above guidelines and to use the doorstaff to eject people who ARE drunk. Doorstaff also have a duty to prevent entry to drunk people. Her company (a national chain) work to these rules since:- a) It makes everyone's job easier. b) They want to keep their licence! (Taking 30 - 50K per weekend evening tends to focus the mind a little....) c) Local police are quite hot on the subject.

18-12-2004, 11:02 AM	#10 (permalink)
Carl Faulkner Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 352	...but in a busy pub with others buying drinks in a round, the law (and its authors) suddenly become an ass.