Blairs bum to be kept just as clean by new home secretary !

mkpdavies · 16-12-2004, 04:35 PM

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...164132,00.html

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New Home Secretary Charles Clarke has rejected calls for a rethink on ID cards following the resignation of David Blunkett.

When one yes-man falls, another steps forward even more willing to please.

If you want a career as a Labour polititian,
and you want to climb high,
you had better lose those principles,
only say yes, or lie!

Nationalist · 16-12-2004, 04:44 PM

Do a little googling on our new home secretary and you'll soon find out about his membership of the Broad Left Communist Party who idolised Stalin.

As long as he isn't Nationalistic though he should be fine :roll:

mkpdavies · 16-12-2004, 06:26 PM

Stalin/Hitler different sides of the same coin. One is not an answer to the other, they are both wrong.

Britain has managed to steer clear of both throughout it's history, which makes me proud. For that reason, Britain has always been a force for good in the world.

Do we want to see that force removed? I don't think so! I think the world needs Britain to stay just as it is, minus the war mongering career merchants who have hijacked it, and want to kill her off ASAP.

Nationalist · 16-12-2004, 09:09 PM

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Stalin/Hitler different sides of the same coin, One is not an answer to the other

Don't remember saying it was !

But doesn't it strike you as odd that a man who was a prominent member of a Stalinist Communist party can become a high ranking member of government without question but Nationalists are turned it some kind of evil demons. Communism is probably the biggest killer in the last 100 years or so yet Commies are seen as good guys. The SWP who idolise Marx set up stalls in Birmingham and no-one bats an eyelid. If the BNP set up a stall we'd get hounded and more than likely attacked given the known violence of the extreme left.

There are so many questions that need to be asked. Why is communism accepted and Nationalism not, who made us think this way and what is their agenda ?

Nationalist · 16-12-2004, 09:22 PM

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I think the world needs Britain to stay just as it is

Dude, if Britain stayed just as it is there wouldn't be much of a problem. But eventually the Muslims will take over by sheer numbers and Britain really will be finished. We wont see it but thats not an excuse to let it happen, I happen to care about what we leave the next generation and I don't want that to be a Saudi Arabia in the making.

Banks are already offering Loans that comply with Sharia Law and they are now asking for Sharia Law Courts. Step by Step they will chip away at this country and turn it INTO phpbb_god knows what.

Go and do some research INTO phpbb_countries that have had Sharia Law forced on them. Nigeria for one, Sudan is another. Go see for yourself.

Intbel · 18-12-2004, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Nationalist

There are so many questions that need to be asked.

Ask away ...

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Originally Posted by Nationalist

Why is communism accepted and Nationalism not...

I think you may find it is not nationalism which is rejected but racism.

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Originally Posted by Nationalist

... who made us think this way and what is their agenda ?

'Tis a truth - how we think is often more important than what we think.

We can choose how we think - to suggest that others "made us think like this" is a cop-out for folks who wish to blame others rather than take responsibility for their own thought processes.

Of course, I am speaking of adults, not children who have yet to learn how to make their own choices, or indeed, have yet to learn there are choices to be made.

Nationalist · 18-12-2004, 09:13 AM

Do you think that popular opinion can be controlled or at least altered by the media. Do you honestly believe that all Americans came to think the way they do all on their own ?

Do you think suicide bombers were born suicide bombers or where they made to think that way ?

mkpdavies · 18-12-2004, 10:04 AM

I think most suicide bombers are conditioned from experience,desperation and indoctrination by a particular faction of their relgion.

You will get the odd one that may have been born with a screw loose, and thus will do evil no-matter what.

Iraq seems to have a lot of suicide bombers now-a-days! I can't think why! :roll:

Intbel · 18-12-2004, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Nationalist

Do you think that popular opinion can be controlled or at least altered by the media.

Yup. Most definitely.

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Originally Posted by Nationalist

Do you honestly believe that all Americans came to think the way they do all on their own ?

Not at all.

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Originally Posted by Nationalist

Do you think suicide bombers were born suicide bombers or were they made to think that way ?

They were taught to think that way.

People also have a choice.
They can choose to think differently and to define their own metasystems instead of adopting the metasystems of others.

People can choose to blindly accept what they are told or they can choose to examine the validity of what they are told.

Would you allow others to do your thinking for you?
Of course not! (At least, I hope not!) You form your own conclusions based upon your current knowledge, level of understanding and the sum of your experiences to date.

In the future you might well believe very differently about many things which today you hold as truths.

C_steam · 18-12-2004, 10:46 AM

Metasystems?! NLP practitioner by any chance? :shock:

16-12-2004, 06:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	Stalin/Hitler different sides of the same coin. One is not an answer to the other, they are both wrong. Britain has managed to steer clear of both throughout it's history, which makes me proud. For that reason, Britain has always been a force for good in the world. Do we want to see that force removed? I don't think so! I think the world needs Britain to stay just as it is, minus the war mongering career merchants who have hijacked it, and want to kill her off ASAP. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	I think most suicide bombers are conditioned from experience,desperation and indoctrination by a particular faction of their relgion. You will get the odd one that may have been born with a screw loose, and thus will do evil no-matter what. Iraq seems to have a lot of suicide bombers now-a-days! I can't think why! :roll: __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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16-12-2004, 04:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nationalist Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 82	Do a little googling on our new home secretary and you'll soon find out about his membership of the Broad Left Communist Party who idolised Stalin. As long as he isn't Nationalistic though he should be fine :roll:

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Nationalist Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 82	Do you think that popular opinion can be controlled or at least altered by the media. Do you honestly believe that all Americans came to think the way they do all on their own ? Do you think suicide bombers were born suicide bombers or where they made to think that way ?

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C_steam Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Anwhere far away from the cabalistas Posts: 7,431	Metasystems?! NLP practitioner by any chance? :shock: