BNP Leader Nick Griffin Arrested

C_steam · 15-12-2004, 07:34 PM

For a young person, affected by immigration, affected by outsourcing and realising that mainstream parties have no interest in solving 'his' problems, what the BNP offers is an interesting proposition.

Why do you think BNP support is so strong in places like Bradford? All the old industry has gone overseas, new industries are now outsourcing, poor standard of living is the norm and, far from being a 'multi-cultural society', white people find themselves a minority surrounded by various enclaves each of which has poor relations with the other.

Racial tensions are high and the fault is not always with the whites. The BNP is the ONLY party offering repatriation as a policy. The majority of their other policies actually ain't too far off what I see posted here.

But we know that there is a strange and violent side to the BNP too. And it is that side that should make people who want to join the BNP think otherwise. But if you have no job, live somewhere like Bradford and, above all, want to see some radical change to the way the country is ran, as I said, the BNP is a very attractive option. It should not mean all BNP supporters are Nazi's by association.

Julian Morrison · 15-12-2004, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by C_steam

repatriation as a policy

Normans, Saxons, and Romans back to Europe! Britain for the Celts!

Carl Faulkner · 15-12-2004, 07:54 PM

The main political parties, afraid of upsetting the race industry, have steered clear of race/immigration issues. This has allowed a clear run for the BNP to put forward policies on immigration without real opposition.

Just as a reminder as to how the race industry shackles the main parties and undermines democracy is best illustrated by the interference in the last general election. Remember how the CRE got the leaders of the Labour and LibDems to sign a compact promising not to make race a political issue. The Conservative leader (Hague) whilst not signing-up made it clear he had no objections to individual candidates signing up to it.

A blatant attempt by a Government quango to dictate what parties should discuss...all to the benefit of the racist BNP.

Maybe that was the plan?

C_steam · 15-12-2004, 08:27 PM

Julian, not my words please. Not my beliefs either. Regretfully just stating a BNP fact, in obviously what was a vain attempt to provide some balanced commentary.

Nationalist · 15-12-2004, 08:53 PM

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The BNP is the ONLY party offering repatriation as a policy

They dropped that policy ages ago, its one of the main reasons more extreme partied like the WNP and NF call them sell-outs and Tories On Steroids.

C_steam · 15-12-2004, 09:09 PM

I stand corrected. However, you may understand why I had no reason to think the stance had changed on this

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The British National Party exists to secure a future for the indigenous peoples of these islands in the North Atlantic which have been our homeland for millennia. We use the term indigenous to describe the people whose ancestors were the earliest settlers here after the last great Ice Age and which have been complemented by the historic migrations from mainland Europe. The migrations of the Celts, Anglo-Saxons, Danes, Norse and closely related kindred peoples have been, over the past few thousands years, instrumental in defining the character of our family of nations.

and

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It has been said that the British are a ******* race, that has neither the right nor the distinct racial heritage needed to proclaim itself the land of a distinct people. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

Why is it important to establish the argument for a distinct people in the case of Britain and her history? etc

Both from the BNP web site, tonight.

GTFC_Adam · 16-12-2004, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Wilde

5) Nazis believe in the fuerherprincip - unquestioning loyalty and obedience to the Leader.

I don't know how much this applies to the BNP. I do note from press reports that BNP Leader Nick Griffin has sole decision-making authority and that all other BNP officeholders are there in an advisory capacity only. If those reports are wrong, feel free to say so. On the other hand I have also heard that the leader is elected by the membership.

At the moment, John Tyndall is trying to challenge for the BNP leadership, and Griffin, terrified of competition has banned him from speaking at local meetings etc. The organiser of Lincolnshire BNP was recently sacked because he invited Tyndall to make a speech at a local meeting.

Very Nazi like don't you think?

Nationalist · 16-12-2004, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GTFC_Adam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Wilde

5) Nazis believe in the fuerherprincip - unquestioning loyalty and obedience to the Leader.

I don't know how much this applies to the BNP. I do note from press reports that BNP Leader Nick Griffin has sole decision-making authority and that all other BNP officeholders are there in an advisory capacity only. If those reports are wrong, feel free to say so. On the other hand I have also heard that the leader is elected by the membership.

At the moment, John Tyndall is trying to challenge for the BNP leadership, and Griffin, terrified of competition has banned him from speaking at local meetings etc. The organiser of Lincolnshire BNP was recently sacked because he invited Tyndall to make a speech at a local meeting.

Very Nazi like don't you think?

Griffin is not terrified of Tyndall at all, remember it was the members who voted Tyndall out and put Griffin in and the BNP's profile has never been better than it is now so why would they put Tyndall back in ?

Tyndall is just bitter and twisted and cant let it go, there are other parties out there at present far more suited to his beliefs as the current BNP is going in a different direction to the BNP he created all them years ago.

GTFC_Adam · 17-12-2004, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Nationalist

Tyndall is just bitter and twisted and cant let it go, there are other parties out there at present far more suited to his beliefs as the current BNP is going in a different direction to the BNP he created all them years ago.

Yet on that BBC documentary, Tyndall voiced his desire for a white Britain, to rapturous applause from pubful of members.

Nationalist · 17-12-2004, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GTFC_Adam

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Originally Posted by Nationalist

Tyndall is just bitter and twisted and cant let it go, there are other parties out there at present far more suited to his beliefs as the current BNP is going in a different direction to the BNP he created all them years ago.

Yet on that BBC documentary, Tyndall voiced his desire for a white Britain, to rapturous applause from pubful of members.

Of course people in the BNP are still going to agree with some of Tyndall's views, there isn't a mile of difference between him and Griffin but that doesn't change the fact the large majority of members don't want him in charge.

Like I said before, moderate muslims and fundamentalists share about 90% of the same views.

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15-12-2004, 07:34 PM	#21 (permalink)
C_steam Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Paddling up 5hit creek..... Posts: 7,521	For a young person, affected by immigration, affected by outsourcing and realising that mainstream parties have no interest in solving 'his' problems, what the BNP offers is an interesting proposition. Why do you think BNP support is so strong in places like Bradford? All the old industry has gone overseas, new industries are now outsourcing, poor standard of living is the norm and, far from being a 'multi-cultural society', white people find themselves a minority surrounded by various enclaves each of which has poor relations with the other. Racial tensions are high and the fault is not always with the whites. The BNP is the ONLY party offering repatriation as a policy. The majority of their other policies actually ain't too far off what I see posted here. But we know that there is a strange and violent side to the BNP too. And it is that side that should make people who want to join the BNP think otherwise. But if you have no job, live somewhere like Bradford and, above all, want to see some radical change to the way the country is ran, as I said, the BNP is a very attractive option. It should not mean all BNP supporters are Nazi's by association.

15-12-2004, 07:54 PM	#23 (permalink)
Carl Faulkner Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 352	The main political parties, afraid of upsetting the race industry, have steered clear of race/immigration issues. This has allowed a clear run for the BNP to put forward policies on immigration without real opposition. Just as a reminder as to how the race industry shackles the main parties and undermines democracy is best illustrated by the interference in the last general election. Remember how the CRE got the leaders of the Labour and LibDems to sign a compact promising not to make race a political issue. The Conservative leader (Hague) whilst not signing-up made it clear he had no objections to individual candidates signing up to it. A blatant attempt by a Government quango to dictate what parties should discuss...all to the benefit of the racist BNP. Maybe that was the plan?

15-12-2004, 08:27 PM	#24 (permalink)
C_steam Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Paddling up 5hit creek..... Posts: 7,521	Julian, not my words please. Not my beliefs either. Regretfully just stating a BNP fact, in obviously what was a vain attempt to provide some balanced commentary.