United British Alliance

MrMoor · 31-10-2004, 08:19 PM

May I suggest a look at a group called unitedbritish.com? A group of people concerned about the way this country is heading both toward the EU and at the same time being unable to control our own borders and address the threat by the enemies who preach hate on the street in Finsbury park. We have people calling for acts of terrorism and are unable to rouse any government interest for them to do anything about it therefore we have to address the problem ourselves.
A group of people who are multi racial and all British. We need people to come and support us, maybe we should join forces.

rjt · 01-11-2004, 02:17 PM

As I have said many times on this forum we need to maxamise the anti EU vote to its fullest potiential, I would welcome partnership with any non racist group who shares our core beliefs The first past the post system of voting does us no favours and anything which fragments the anti EU vote however slight should be a major cause of concern for the leadership.

Tom Wilde · 01-11-2004, 08:22 PM

I have some hazy recollection that after the 1997 General Election, UKIP joined a formal alliance with a number of other eurosceptic groups including the Green Party. This was imaginatively named the New Alliance. The Greens withdrew at some later date, believing that the alliance restricted their ability to stand candidates against UKIP, and the New Alliance then went INTO phpbb_deep hibernation. Am I remembering this correctly?

I see that a website still exists:

http://www.iits.dircon.co.uk/newalliance/

It isn't great, but it seems to be still updated and contains a useful section on the Civil Contingencies Bill. However, I can't see any specific mention of UKIP, or the Green Party, or any other actual political parties - though the site does talk a lot about "unity", in very general terms.

Does anyone remember anything more about the New Alliance? Can you correct or confirm what I've written above? I ask because if we are discussing co-operation between euroscptical parties, then it might be worth looking at previous efforts in that direction, to see what we can learn and to identify any pitfalls to ignore next time around.

Tom Wilde · 01-11-2004, 08:30 PM

Oops. I've just found this page on the New Alliance website, which basically outlines its history.

http://www.iits.dircon.co.uk/newalliance/const.htm

Looks like what I said above was mostly wrong.

ops:

The New Alliance was apparently an initiative by individuals, not parties. It brought together people frustrated by the division between UKIP and the Referendum Party. There is no mention there of the Green Party, so my memory must be playing tricks. Sorry.

31-10-2004, 08:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
MrMoor Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 259	United British Alliance May I suggest a look at a group called unitedbritish.com? A group of people concerned about the way this country is heading both toward the EU and at the same time being unable to control our own borders and address the threat by the enemies who preach hate on the street in Finsbury park. We have people calling for acts of terrorism and are unable to rouse any government interest for them to do anything about it therefore we have to address the problem ourselves. A group of people who are multi racial and all British. We need people to come and support us, maybe we should join forces.

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01-11-2004, 02:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
rjt Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Aldershot Posts: 5,479	As I have said many times on this forum we need to maxamise the anti EU vote to its fullest potiential, I would welcome partnership with any non racist group who shares our core beliefs The first past the post system of voting does us no favours and anything which fragments the anti EU vote however slight should be a major cause of concern for the leadership.

01-11-2004, 08:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tom Wilde Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London. Posts: 2,914	I have some hazy recollection that after the 1997 General Election, UKIP joined a formal alliance with a number of other eurosceptic groups including the Green Party. This was imaginatively named the New Alliance. The Greens withdrew at some later date, believing that the alliance restricted their ability to stand candidates against UKIP, and the New Alliance then went INTO phpbb_deep hibernation. Am I remembering this correctly? I see that a website still exists: http://www.iits.dircon.co.uk/newalliance/ It isn't great, but it seems to be still updated and contains a useful section on the Civil Contingencies Bill. However, I can't see any specific mention of UKIP, or the Green Party, or any other actual political parties - though the site does talk a lot about "unity", in very general terms. Does anyone remember anything more about the New Alliance? Can you correct or confirm what I've written above? I ask because if we are discussing co-operation between euroscptical parties, then it might be worth looking at previous efforts in that direction, to see what we can learn and to identify any pitfalls to ignore next time around.

01-11-2004, 08:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tom Wilde Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London. Posts: 2,914	Oops. I've just found this page on the New Alliance website, which basically outlines its history. http://www.iits.dircon.co.uk/newalliance/const.htm Looks like what I said above was mostly wrong. ops: The New Alliance was apparently an initiative by individuals, not parties. It brought together people frustrated by the division between UKIP and the Referendum Party. There is no mention there of the Green Party, so my memory must be playing tricks. Sorry.