Thread: Gun Rights; the test of a free country.

We already live in such a country as that marjem.

We need US style gun laws here for sure,the long term politicians are the ones who carry on the plan to sqeaze the very life and soul out of the people,they never let up and are devoid of decency and mercy.
A National gun law would stop such treatment of the people dead in its tracks and the long term scum would be quickly gone from us because they are cowards.
Politicians like Mandy,Prezza,Reid and Kinnockio and such would be targets of some of the people im sure,but hey,what goes around comes around as they say.
We need a National Gun Owning Law in the UK.

I agree but how would it work? Our police are now too scared, in case they make a mistake, so the scum get away with it.

Originally Posted by marjem

John Connor: So you think that we should all carry weapons to defend ourselves from the minority that might want to cause us harm?

Not all of us. Just those who're not prohibited from doing so by virtue of being a criminal or being mental.

In a society, we trade the right to protect (use of firearms, etc.) ourselves and our possessions for the protection provided by officials in that society. Since those officials are not protecting us or our property, we should have the right to do it ourselves.

The US is the wrong place to compare us to, since an awful lot of yanks are complete mentalists. So let's take Switzerland instead. There's very little burglary or home rapes in Switzerland. Could that be because most houses are required by law to contain a full-auto M16?

I should have the right to decide whether or not to bear arms,and so should everyone else in my opinion.
We need to remember that we have a few politicians who are making our lives very difficult at the moment,and for some people even unbearable,these politicians would never treat people like this if they had the right to bear arms in this country.We are governed by criminal gangs of political scumbags.

Correct!
The fear of guns on a part of the ordinary people stems from the brainwash propaganda that our political elite feed us, fear of standing up for ourselves!
These are exactly the people the government feels threatned by so it persecutes its victims, ie. us, rather than be accused by the Guardian of discriminating against burglars by increasing the likelihood of them being shot!

Hartlepool is right in the sense that the government are the real criminals, and they would feel bad about each smack-head gunned down rather than emphasize with the repeatedly-burgled.

As for the police themselves, I'd sack every police officer of the rank of inspector upwards, hand training over to the Army, staff it by the Army and remove the Home Office's juristiction over it!

Originally Posted by marjem

How can you say that when so many have been killed recently by guns and knives? How can you be sure that those guns owned legally will not get into the wrong hands?

Home Office statistics I think. I did try and find the stats but couldn't. I think that they are based on weapons recovered and being tied in to forensics. Even if you can't find the gun you can get most of the info you need from the bullet.

Originally Posted by marjem

A child of someone I worked with took out a legally owned gun and 'accidently' shot a friend of his, luckily he was not seriously injured.

I am glad that the child was OK. If I was to be pedantic, the legally owned gun in this case was not being held legally. In order for it to be legally held, you have to make sure that the guns cannot be accessed and if a child could get to the gun, then it is obvious that they were not secured to the legal standard. If this happens the police tend to remove your guns. Did that happen to them? As it is, my wife is not allowed to transport my guns nor is she allowed to know where I keep the keys to the cabinet.

Originally Posted by marjem

Guns and knives should be banned from our streets.

Agree 100%. As I posted earlier, they can also ban replicas at the same time.

Replicas have been de-marketed, if they are post-1870.
As for converting replicas, it would be almost as easy to buy a gun illegally, or even make one from scratch!
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