News: Right of households to rubbish bin collection by councils to be abolished (Telegraph)

Seasider · 19-07-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by g hall

Council Tax strike could be on the cards
or
A mass fly tip over the council offices
or
A mass fly tip over the Chief Executives house

Just when we thought the NuLab shambles could not get any worse, they are writing the longest suicide note in political history

Now that sounds like a plan

cassie · 19-07-2008, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Westcountryman

Or get yourself elected as a councillor on a ticket of reducing/freezing council tax.

Shows how much you know!

80%+ of council funding comes from the Exchequer! For all intents and purposes, HM Government sets the level of Council Tax!

___________________

Westcountryman · 19-07-2008, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cassie

Shows how much you know!

80%+ of council funding comes from the Exchequer! For all intents and purposes, HM Government sets the level of Council Tax!

Er, no. Obviously money that comes from the central pot is not affected by your rate of council tax. Also, not all councils get 80% of their funding from the central government grant, only the luck ones. Cornwall County Council gets around 50% of its funding from government, 50% from council tax.

EDIT: I lie, Cornwall County Council gets a mere 43% of its funding from central government. The other 57% comes from local council tax.

NickIrons · 20-07-2008, 05:16 AM

It amazes me why this simple procedure has to be surrounded
by so much bureaucracy. In Switz, each area/postal district or
whatever is applicable for the region, refuse will only be collected
if put in official refuse sacks that are bought from local outlets.
There is a tax on them, so the more you chuck, the more you
pay, there is a bar code on the bags, but only to verify their
authenticity and not identity. And there are few, if not any
problems. I don't wish to give a utopian impression of the country,
as it has it problems like all others do, but if something as simple as refuse collection cannot be organised, then it must make you think
long and hard about what sort of people are running British Council Services.

g hall · 20-07-2008, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickIrons

but if something as simple as refuse collection cannot be organised, then it must make you think
long and hard about what sort of people are running British Council Services.

Short and simple it's run by F*CKWITS and people keep electing them <shakes head and cries >

cassie · 20-07-2008, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Westcountryman

Er, no. Obviously money that comes from the central pot is not affected by your rate of council tax. Also, not all councils get 80% of their funding from the central government grant, only the luck ones. Cornwall County Council gets around 50% of its funding from government, 50% from council tax.

EDIT: I lie, Cornwall County Council gets a mere 43% of its funding from central government. The other 57% comes from local council tax.

And in the rest of England?

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Westcountryman · 20-07-2008, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cassie

And in the rest of England?

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It varies (rather massively) from County to County. I'm not going to give you a run-down of every local authority in the Country.

cassie · 22-07-2008, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Westcountryman

It varies (rather massively) from County to County. I'm not going to give you a run-down of every local authority in the Country.

Shows how much you know!

80%+ of council funding comes from the Exchequer! For all intents and purposes, HM Government sets the level of Council Tax!

_________________________

BonnieDundee · 22-07-2008, 02:26 AM

And your proof for this assertion is?

youcanhandlethetruth · 22-07-2008, 08:19 AM

"Councils could refuse to empty bins that are too far from a curb, are not placed directly outside a gate or are put out on the street too early."

Put out on the street too early ?

You see how ridiculous but critical things are getting now ?

Once the precedent is set, it will be anything and everything.

I suppose they've got stasi spies checking what time you put your rubbish out now.

But seriously, do people realize that every policy made now is to treat you like a slave ? (I'm not kidding)

All those environmental morons supporting "climate change" are going to look very stupid when they eventually introduce a tax on breathing.

You think I'm kidding ?
That's right they will tax the exhalation of co2 emmisions when you breathe.

The policy has always moving towards the servitude of the population to the big brother totalitarian police state.

Please name me one policy that isn't ?........

Also, WTF are we paying council tax for anyway ?

Before I used to complain the onlt thing councils did was to collect rubbish.

Now I won't be able to even say that.

20-07-2008, 05:16 AM	#14 (permalink)
NickIrons Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bienne, Switzerland Posts: 494	It amazes me why this simple procedure has to be surrounded by so much bureaucracy. In Switz, each area/postal district or whatever is applicable for the region, refuse will only be collected if put in official refuse sacks that are bought from local outlets. There is a tax on them, so the more you chuck, the more you pay, there is a bar code on the bags, but only to verify their authenticity and not identity. And there are few, if not any problems. I don't wish to give a utopian impression of the country, as it has it problems like all others do, but if something as simple as refuse collection cannot be organised, then it must make you think long and hard about what sort of people are running British Council Services. Last edited by NickIrons; 20-07-2008 at 05:18 AM. Reason: None

22-07-2008, 02:26 AM	#19 (permalink)
BonnieDundee Uber Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Between Mallaig and Cornwall. Posts: 2,809	And your proof for this assertion is? __________________ "It is poor civic hygiene to install technologies that could someday facilitate a police state." -Bruce Schneier How to Overthrow the System: brew your own beer; kick in your TV; build your own cabin and pss off front porch whenever you bloody well feel like it.* Edward Abbey Leopold Kohr.

22-07-2008, 08:19 AM	#20 (permalink)
youcanhandlethetruth Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,569	"Councils could refuse to empty bins that are too far from a curb, are not placed directly outside a gate or are put out on the street too early." Put out on the street too early ? You see how ridiculous but critical things are getting now ? Once the precedent is set, it will be anything and everything. I suppose they've got stasi spies checking what time you put your rubbish out now. But seriously, do people realize that every policy made now is to treat you like a slave ? (I'm not kidding) All those environmental morons supporting "climate change" are going to look very stupid when they eventually introduce a tax on breathing. You think I'm kidding ? That's right they will tax the exhalation of co2 emmisions when you breathe. The policy has always moving towards the servitude of the population to the big brother totalitarian police state. Please name me one policy that isn't ?........ Also, WTF are we paying council tax for anyway ? Before I used to complain the onlt thing councils did was to collect rubbish. Now I won't be able to even say that. __________________ Before tyranny and television, "conspiracy theorists" never existed. cointelpro/halfwits(in order of Porkpies) Clippo,Wowbanger TIP, Akria,Besoeker,Bear,Eurosceptic Antlantacist

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