BonnieDundee

Not they're not but they aren't quite totalitarianian, fascist or Nazis such talk is just as likely to turn people off as win people over and must be avoided. We need to fight the growing authoritarianism and centralism but keep it lucide and level-headed.

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-Bruce Schneier

How to Overthrow the System: brew your own beer; kick in your TV; build your own cabin and p*ss off front porch whenever you bloody well feel like it.
Edward Abbey

Leopold Kohr.

NoMoreEUSSR

In some ways Norway is even more of a PC nanny state than the Evil Union. But there is a crucial difference: it is clearly what the Norwegian people voted for and actually genuinely seem to want. The more libertarian minority have a tendency either to grin and bear it, or emigrate.

youcanhandlethetruth

That's polical correctness - taught by guess who....

Truth is truth - if it's not nice, then too bad.

Don't shoot the messenger.

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BonnieDundee

No that is common sense and anti-idiocy. To call our current system totalitarian makes you look silly and doesn't help the message.

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"It is poor civic hygiene to install technologies that could someday facilitate a police state."
-Bruce Schneier

How to Overthrow the System: brew your own beer; kick in your TV; build your own cabin and p*ss off front porch whenever you bloody well feel like it.
Edward Abbey

Leopold Kohr.

youcanhandlethetruth

You may think it's "common sense" to take a supposedly "common sense" perspective, but what you don't understand is that the people in power are criminals and therefore don't have common sense or reasonable behaviour.

You may not call it totalitarian but I certainly do - there are too many issues to prove the point - terrorism laws with nothing to do with terrorism, SOCPA, detention without trial, flouridization of water, hate speech laws, brainwashing in schools, common purpose, peak oil scam, man made global warming hoax, eugenics, false flag terrorism, financial crisis by design, I could go on and on all day....

Are you aware it's one big eugenics operation on the population ?

Or haven't you swallowed the correct coloured pill yet ?

Please don't call it a "conspiracy" - I can debate everything I've just mentioned with supporting proof....

Out of interest what's your definition of a totalitarian state and what's your message?

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BonnieDundee

Totalitarianism means there is no effective brakes or intermediate bodies between the individual and the state. This simply is not true in our current system, it might be bad but we ain't in 1984 yet.

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"It is poor civic hygiene to install technologies that could someday facilitate a police state."
-Bruce Schneier

How to Overthrow the System: brew your own beer; kick in your TV; build your own cabin and p*ss off front porch whenever you bloody well feel like it.
Edward Abbey

Leopold Kohr.

youcanhandlethetruth

Well I take your point, but I wish these intermediate bodies would pull their finger out soon because it's getting really serious now.

Are you sure a lot of these intermediate bodies are not controlled by the government ? I'd be interested to know which ones you think are impartial of governement.

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Before tyranny and television, "conspiracy theorists" never existed.

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