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Old 10-05-2008, 06:56 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Bear you're either completely brainwashed or a total fascist scumbag - I'm not sure which but I guess the latter.....

Your statement

"The authorities now need to be able to establish who is where, when, and where they have been for the simple reason that we are now in a war with an ideology that is threatening our very western freedoms and life."

We are not at war - no-one had declared war on us except the government.
Wrong. We are at war. We are engaged in a war we did not start, a war with what would have been called “Fifth Columnists” in our midst and was it not for the actions of our security services the death toll by now would be a hell of a lot bigger than it has been.


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Even if it were true, your argument which is basically "Give us your liberty for freedom" is straight out of the fascist handbook and it shows your true colours.....

Yes because we are under attack then WE are the suspects ?
Yes, thanks to the multicultural adventure by New Labour we are now ALL suspects. We have to be. Who’s to say that the white guy in normal dress isn’t carrying some very simple but very effective biological weapon on his person?

Or has a USB memory stick from his place of work with details of goodness knows what on to take to his mates who do NOT wear ordinary dress, but little sheets on their heads?

That’s just two for testers. There’s a whole lot more besides that IS taking place in our broken society.

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It's not only ridiculous but sick and fascist too.

Shame on you.

You may think you will get away scot free from all this, but you were will be dealt with the most severely if the totalitarian state survives.... No doubt.

Just remember that !
It is precisely in order to fight against a “totalitarian” state taking over that such things as are being done sadly now MUST be done.

The alternative, kicking out every suspect and their contacts, is impossible especially when we now can’t even keep those KNOWN to have active links with terrorists in jail or send them back where they came from and all because of our incredibly stupid senior judges.
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Old 15-05-2008, 03:28 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Wrong. We are at war. We are engaged in a war we did not start, a war with what would have been called “Fifth Columnists” in our midst and was it not for the actions of our security services the death toll by now would be a hell of a lot bigger than it has been.

Yes, thanks to the multicultural adventure by New Labour we are now ALL suspects. We have to be. Who’s to say that the white guy in normal dress isn’t carrying some very simple but very effective biological weapon on his person?

Or has a USB memory stick from his place of work with details of goodness knows what on to take to his mates who do NOT wear ordinary dress, but little sheets on their heads?

That’s just two for testers. There’s a whole lot more besides that IS taking place in our broken society.

It is precisely in order to fight against a “totalitarian” state taking over that such things as are being done sadly now MUST be done.

The alternative, kicking out every suspect and their contacts, is impossible especially when we now can’t even keep those KNOWN to have active links with terrorists in jail or send them back where they came from and all because of our incredibly stupid senior judges.
So let me get this right......

1) We are engaged in a war (with no country) that we did not start.

2) Despite 1) we are now ALL suspects.
(not just the muslims who apparently we are fighting ????!!! )

3) "In order to fight against a “totalitarian” state taking over "such things sadly now MUST be done" (by the totalitarian state. )

4) "The alternative, kicking out every suspect and their contacts, is impossible..... "

Especially as we're apparently all suspects - imagine no-one in England left except the police and New Labour...... Hmmmmm....

5) "Who’s to say that the white guy in normal dress isn’t carrying some very simple but very effective biological weapon on his person?"

So apparently now there are loads of white Al-Quaeda running around ?

If we were at war with Germany in WWII, would any white Brit want to blow up his own country ?
And what has changed since (unless of course he was working for the secret service) ?

Actually hold on - you said before "thanks to the multicultural adventure by New Labour we are now ALL suspects".

But which is it to be ?
Misguided New Labour policy or the threat of white Al-Quaeda in a war we didn't start but in which we are apparently the enemy too ?

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"Or has a USB memory stick from his place of work with details of goodness knows what on to take to his mates who do NOT wear ordinary dress, but little sheets on their heads?"

Forgive me but what the hell are you on about ?

In summary I'd say you're having a laugh if it wasn't so amazingly unbelievable and ridiculous !

I just hope your attempts at putting the stuff you want to sell in bold doesn't have some undesired effect on someone who takes your message at first glance without examining the comedy underneath.

Bear - do us all a favour and please keep posting !
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So let me get this right......

1) We are engaged in a war (with no country) that we did not start.
Almost right, a nation calling itself Dar Ul Islam is at war with those of us who not live in that nation.

Dar Ul Islam knows no national borders as we do. Checkl it out.

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2) Despite 1) we are now ALL suspects.
(not just the muslims who apparently we are fighting ????!!! )
We have to be. Whose to say who is or who is not a member of Dar Ul Islam from appearance or even lifestyle? Consider events where terrorists have been born in Britain converts and so on.

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3) "In order to fight against a “totalitarian” state taking over "such things sadly now MUST be done" (by the totalitarian state. )
In the case of attacks by fifth columnists you have to fight fire with fire. Our freedoms are the gateway that they are using against us.

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) "The alternative, kicking out every suspect and their contacts, is impossible..... "
It is. The best way is to remove the environment that allows them to flourish. Destroy the habitat and in time the organism dies out.

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Especially as we're apparently all suspects - imagine no-one in England left except the police and New Labour...... Hmmmmm....
We are. Unless proved NOT to be. Even the police and some New Labour are not beyond being members of this ideology that is threatening us. In the case of New Labour especially the supporters fail to see how their stupid multiculturalism and their “all ideologies are equally valid” nonsense is fueling the fire.

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5) "Who’s to say that the white guy in normal dress isn’t carrying some very simple but very effective biological weapon on his person?"

So apparently now there are loads of white Al-Quaeda running around ?
Doesn’t have to be Al-Quaeda, there’s enough devout Islamofascists who are equally committed to imposing Islam on us. Al-Quaedahave a different number one objective and it's mainly about the middle east and Saudi in particular

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If we were at war with Germany in WWII, would any white Brit want to blow up his own country ?
And what has changed since (unless of course he was working for the secret service) ?

But that’s the point. A Muslim may be a “Brit” by paperwork but is a national of Dar Ul Islam by will and intent.


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Actually hold on - you said before "thanks to the multicultural adventure by New Labour we are now ALL suspects".

But which is it to be ?
Misguided New Labour policy or the threat of white Al-Quaeda in a war we didn't start but in which we are apparently the enemy too ?
Think about it. It’s the multicultural idiocy of New Labour that has opened the doors and is facilitating the islamofascists, not just Al Quaeda, in doing what they are intent on doing.

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5)"Or has a USB memory stick from his place of work with details of goodness knows what on to take to his mates who do NOT wear ordinary dress, but little sheets on their heads?"

Forgive me but what the hell are you on about ?

In summary I'd say you're having a laugh if it wasn't so amazingly unbelievable and ridiculous !

I just hope your attempts at putting the stuff you want to sell in bold doesn't have some undesired effect on someone who takes your message at first glance without examining the comedy underneath.
Perhaps if you read what I’ve written and engage more brain cells than you have teeth you will see what I’m on about.

Maybe as a proponent of pushing conspiracy theories in the face of reality you’re finding it difficult to digest what you would like to be only a conspiracy theory but is in fact very close to if not absolutely bang on reality.
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The Bear, Darlink,
Some time ago I tipped you off to getting some professional mental health help.
You now seem to be becomming totally unstable.

As reguards the points made above:

Dar Ul Islam as you call it - do you mean ...
Divisions of the world in Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Dar al-Islam (Arabic: دار الإسلام literally house/abode of Islam; a.k.a. Dar as-Salam , house/abode of Peace) is an islamic term used by Muslim scholars to refer to those countries where Muslims can practice their religion freely.[1][2] In the orthodox tradition of Islam, the world is divided into two components: dar al-Islam, the house of Islam and dar al-Harb, the house of war.

Scotland is, thank God, a country where I can practice Islam freely.

"5) "Who’s to say that the white guy in normal dress isn’t carrying some very simple but very effective biological weapon on his person?""

Only this very morning I used a simple but very effective biological weapon on my cat. Bob Martin - Worms
this stuff is more effective than Ricin.

5) << (Should be (6
"Or has a USB memory stick from his place of work with details of goodness knows what on to take to his mates who do NOT wear ordinary dress, but little sheets on their heads?"

I often wear little white sheets on my head but my GF [ a Spiritualist]
says I look stupid. I often give her USB memory sticks from my place of work.

Anyway Bear darlink, you said, "Doesn’t have to be Al-Quaeda, there’s enough devout Islamofascists who are equally committed to imposing Islam on us. Al-Quaedahave a different number one objective and it's mainly about the middle east and Saudi in particular."

Indeed Sir, I am making it my lives work to convert you.
In the esteemed words of George Bu$h, [Allah bless him] " If you are not with us you are against us".

"So apparently now there are loads of white Al-Quaeda running around ?"
Indeed there are. They belong to Al-CIADA


"Perhaps if you read what I’ve written and engage more brain cells than you have teeth you will see what I’m on about."

Most of MY teeth are alas false.....


"Maybe as a proponent of pushing conspiracy theories in the face of reality you’re finding it difficult to digest what you would like to be only a conspiracy theory but is in fact very close to if not absolutely bang on reality."

Bear darlink, have your read about 7/7?
7/7 Ripple Effect


Finally "It is. The best way is to remove the environment that allows them to flourish. Destroy the habitat and in time the organism dies out."

SEE above Bob Martin - Worms

have a nice day Bear darlink. Go for a walk in the fresh air.
Smell the flowers ..................
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