Mikeuk

You seem to be an expert on this. You've obviously done it before.

Maybe you and he should run a mooning race/wedding tackle competion down two lanes of the M1, with a judge desperately trying to keep up in the middle?

The main purpose the Nazi spy cameras serve is to rip off the public and pay the overinflated salaries of the scum who administer them.

Zak64

Nope! I'm not buying that at all. In fact, I'm going to say "ar5e!" Although I have never mooned a speed camera from the passenger seat of a car, (or anywhere else come to think of it) it is my assertion that it is perfectly safe to do so. Sure, the passenger would have to go through a few contortions to get into his mooning position, but he could have done that easily enough without interfering with the drivers ability to control the vehicle.

Years ago, at one particular location, I used to cross the road on my Triumph 900 and tear through a "safety" camera at 100 MPH +. The camera would of course flash away furiously to itself, recording the image of the front of a motorcycle with the rider's middle finger of his left hand raised in a 'salute' to the speed camera. Well, it kept me amused for a while, and I like to think it wound Gloucestershire Constabulary up for a bit; which is always a bit of a bonus.

The purpose they serve is to rip off the public. They do not replace proper policing of our roads. I can drive through a speed camera at twice the drink drive limit, toking on a big fat spliff whist snorting Bolivian marching powder off the dashboard of my car and the "safety" camera aint gonna do sweet Fanny Adams about it. Were a real police officer to spot me behaving in such a way I suspect his suspicions would be raised and he may well feel compelled to investigate.

Well your fascist fantasy will probably come true. There are plans afoot to fix satellite tracking devices to all vehicles for road pricing purposes. This is of course driven by your dear friends in Brussels who need some justification, no matter how flimsy, for their Gallileo GPS vanity project.

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Mikeuk

When I worked for the Valuation Office in Chichester we had a load of hassle from some pompous old fool who thought he was due a reduction in his rating assessment and when we wouldn't play ball made a formal complaint against one of my colleagues.

One day we read an hilarious letter in the local paper from this plonker. He and his wife had been overtaken on the A27 by a car that was speeding and hooting loudly. They then beheld the 'horrific sight' (I remember that phrase) of several pairs of buttocks pressed to the windows.

Apparently he then drove to Chi police station to complain and was disgusted by the attitude of the police, who seemed to find it all very funny. His pathetic plea ended with a strikingly accurate description of the offending car. 'It was quite small and I think it may have been blue'

It was one of the funniest 'Disgusted of Chichester' letters I ever read, and there were a few of those.

Roland

It has been labeled as funny by every one else.

The Bear

Not by me.

Nor would it have been if the driver had been unable to move quickly enough because of the idiot doing the mooning and so being in his way, to avoid hitting a child should one have run into the road.

Probably not by someone who had their car damaged or worse someone seriously injured by an uninsured vehicle either.

Or had their car damaged or someone injured or worse by a vehicle that was in an unsafe condition that had not been detected by an annual MOT test.

Fixed speed cameras also serve a far more useful purpose than just catching speeding drivers, they also ensure that far more vehicles are driven inside the speed restriction on a road so keeping the (usually young) fools who want to drive at a speed THEY want to in their place.

In my case I ALWAYS drive below the posted speed limit and make a point of not cooperating with idiots who flash their lights and blow their horns because they don’t want to, and yes, I also report dangerous driving when appropriate especially where HGV’s are involved.

Far more people should do the same.

Driving on our overcrowded roads is dangerous. Roads are a means of getting from A to B, NOT places of entertainment or fun.

I fully endorse the use of safety cameras, and my regret is that not enough use is made of them.

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BonnieDundee

I think all such cameras should be scrapped or used to follow the cars of "road safety campaigners".

SWIM has suggested people target speed cameras and such. I cannot endorse this of course.

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Westcountryman

But they didn't. Nothing bad happened as a result of this and as such there's no need to prosecute. What If scenarios are pointless. No doubt you support ID cards because one day, someone might commit a crime.

Another What If. The article says nothing about the car not being insured, and in this case nothing bad happened. Ergo no reason to prosecute, again.

MOTs are pointless. It's invalid as soon as you take your car off the forecourt, not to mention that you can have a serious accident and you don't need a re-test. And anyway, no indication that the car did not have a current MOT certificate either.

Rubbish. If someone is driving recklessly or dangerously (a criteria that speed itself does not always fill) then fair enough. However, in some circumstances speeding is no more dangerous than driving at 70mph.

I hope you don't use your mobile phone whilst driving then. What do you want, a blue ribbon? Would you report Jews hiding next door?

Then you're very much in the minority.

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Mikeuk

Bear is Politically Correct in every conceivable respect; on the EU, Racism, and of course Road Safety Fascism.

Essentially, Politically Correctness means obeying the edicts of the authorities. Of course nowadays that means reporting your neighbour for being a homophobe, but that's just a change of fashion.

I'm sure if he had lived in Victorian England he would have reported his neighbours to the church authorities for co-habiting and naturally in Nazi Germany he'd have felt the urge you describe.

You can't really blame the PC control freaks. They're programmed that way.

And of course they are simply the mirror image of the BNP. Only UKIP, the Libertarian Party and possibly (I don't know enough about it) the Liberal Party uphold freedom of speech and actions.

BonnieDundee

You don't have to be PC to be anti-racist.

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-Bruce Schneier

How to Overthrow the System: brew your own beer; kick in your TV; build your own cabin and p*ss off front porch whenever you bloody well feel like it.
Edward Abbey

Leopold Kohr.

The Bear

What an amazingly immature attitude to take.

Laws are put in place for a number of reasons, some to deal with criminal behaviour and some to provide protection for people from their own stupidity or the stupidity of others.

“What if” scenarios are essential in determining what should be proscribed, just as they are essential in determining what should be taken into account in engineering design.

ID Cards? A different state of affairs. I do consider that the introduction of a National data base system is now essential in order to deal with the changes that have come about in our society.

The subject is safety cameras.

They provide an excellent means of detecting uninsured vehicles and their immediate removal from use.

MOT tests are imperfect as at present they are annual whereas in my opinion they should be conducted more frequently and possibly based on mileage run, but they do provide an annual check on a vehicle at which time components that are in a dangerous condition can be identified and rectified before the car is allowed to be used on public roads again. The issue is safety cameras and their value in detecting vehicles that do not have valid MOT certification.

BTW, If a vehicle is driven in a manner that might have resulted in damage to the integrity of the vehicle or has been overloaded the police can and do issue a proscribing notice that results in the vehicle being required to pass an MOT before further use.

If the law states that a stretch of highway is subject to a speed restriction then that is the law.

A restriction will have been applied usually for a very good reason.

The principle that anyone should ignore such a restriction simply because THEY can’t understand why a restriction is in place is at once ludicrous and offensive just as to ignore such a speed restriction should result in prosecution.

No I do NOT use my mobile ‘phone when driving, I make sure it’s turned off before setting out (I really do) or on a long journey turn off the ring tone so as not to be distracted and check for missed calls or messages on the periodic stops that we all make when nature (or coffee) calls.

As for reporting “Jews next door”, no, but I absolutely would report those that I suspected of being illegally in our country to the authorities just as I would, with any wrong doers.

I have twice reported benefit cheats and was delighted to see them prosecuted on both occasions.

That’s as maybe. If the minority manage to keep the roads safer by our actions, and we do, then the majority should be thanking us and not condemning us.

Driving on our overcrowded roads is dangerous. Roads are a means of getting from A to B, NOT places of entertainment or fun.

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