Envirofascists go after man of pure evil

mkpdavies · 23-04-2008, 04:02 PM

Father of four taken to court and fined ... because he overfilled his wheelie-bin by just four inches | the Daily Mail

Quote:

With his rubbish collected only once a fortnight, Gareth Corkhill's wheelie bin was so full the lid wouldn't shut.

And for that, the father of four finds himself with a criminal record.
Magistrates convicted the 26-year-old bus driver after hearing evidence that the lid was four inches ajar, which is against rules to stop bins overflowing.

Excellent use of taxpayers cash. Let's hope he has learned his lesson and either burns it, puts it in his neighbours bins or lobs it in the woods next time.

Rebirth · 23-04-2008, 04:13 PM

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He was ordered to pay £210 - a week's wages - after he declined to pay an on-the-spot fine imposed by the local council's bin police, who visited him wearing stab-proof vests and carrying photographic evidence of his crime.

To add insult to injury he was told to pay a £15 victim surcharge to help victims of violence - despite there being no victim - and threatened with prison if he failed to pay.

Rapists, murderers and other violent criminals who have earned a jail sentence rather than a fine are immune from the penalty.

Are the police working for the Russian Mafia or something?

John Connor · 23-04-2008, 04:51 PM

This bloke is a bit stupid. If they came at me with a fine for overfilling my bin the answer would be "prove it was me and not a bypasser, or I'll ram the human rights act so far up your **** you won't be able to sit down for a month".

Interesting bit in that article about the council not letting people put their trash out before 7am. Very handy for those who have to be at work for 7.

ranter · 23-04-2008, 05:30 PM

Interesting bit in that article about the council not letting people put their trash out before 7am. Very handy for those who have to be at work for 7.[/quote]

Has it not occured that everything that national and as in this case local govenment do is geared to punnishing and fineing the working man of this country.They need all the money they can squeeze out of us to pay for their pensions and the benifits of thier voters

Ea of Dune · 23-04-2008, 05:50 PM

As soon as an English Naionalist government gets in I hope they remove the criminal records people like this chap have recieved thanks to the f****ng idiots the Labour party employees in it's councils, police forces etc.
What a goddamn joke.

MKP> At least your comment about buring, lodding etc. make me chuckle

Ea of dune

Independent UKIP · 23-04-2008, 09:51 PM

I saw on the TV reports on this a very smiley bloke from Copeland Council who had no shame, no contrition, no regret but complete and utter certainty that he and they were 100% correct in everything they had done. When asked about whether anything other than total closure of the bin was acceptable he smiled away that it was 'recommended' to residents that the bin be completely closed. He also chose to lie that landfill was becoming full. If there is one person worthy of getting a criminal record for some minor transgression of the law he would be an extremely worthy recipient.

g hall · 24-04-2008, 08:15 AM

AND not one MSM organisation has (to my knowledge) explained why we're in this mess The EU directive regarding landfill and recycling don't these over paid highly educated well resourced people get it or are they f*cking stupid or in the conspiracy

tito · 26-04-2008, 11:32 PM

Envirofascists go after man

The rest was superfluous.

Aardvark · 27-04-2008, 10:40 AM

I assume that, if the waste was only being collected once a fortnight, there were recycling boxes/bins available. I also suspect that much of the gentleman's waste was recyclable materials. I also suspect that he has been warned previously.

That said, the way to achieve the recycling targets, which should be set to meet UK requirements and not those of the EU, is by education. Recycling is good as, on a small island, it reduces imports and managed properly creates work. There really is no point not recycling metals and plastics. Prices for metals are very high at present and, if peak oil has been reached, the raw material of plastic is becoming less easy to obtain. We only produce 5% of our timber needs and paper and cardboard are being imported unnecessarily if we can recycle.

Our own landfill is nowhere near as full as Germany's and using shortage of landfill as an excuse is unacceptable. The council officers don't point out that the contracts for waste collection are often one of the biggest items of expenditure of a district council. If everybody refuses to cooperate by recycling those things that are recyclable then the council is wasting money signing contracts and taxpayers money is being frittered away. I am paying for the recycling contracts and the waste management contracts through my council tax. If other taxpayers make the contracts more expensive then they are costing me money. This man is costing other council taxpayers more money.

Because I am aciduous about my recycling and composting I can put my wheelie bin out about once every 5-6 weeks. I am now getting a second composter to take the green waste I generate as the first one is full. I have an extra recycling box. It is easy and I do wonder how people can fill bins as most waste is recyclable.

I think that jumping on people in these cases without warning is not right as it diminishes respect for the law, but coming down hard on people who are wilfully costing the rest of us money is fine by me. The landfill taxes, wrong or right, are a fact. When we elect a government that withdraws us from the EU then they might, and I only say might, be cancelled. Individuals making points about landfill tax at my expense are not clever. I don't want to pay increased council tax for the lazy, arrogant and politically illiterate to make their points. I am sick of people who complain about the way councils are run and political decisions are made, but won't even waste a few minutes every year to vote out the people they object to. If the guy is unhappy about the way the council enforces the rules he should get elected and change it (it is a distinct probability that he is one of the 75-80% of the people who don't vote in council elections).

Aardvark · 27-04-2008, 10:42 AM

Two sides to every story - no sympathy, the guy didn't respond to letters and didn't attend court, WTF did he expect?

Waste Prosecution Information

Waste Prosecution Information
A Copeland resident was given a warning for overfilling his bin on 20 July 2007. This resident already had a larger 360 litre bin, which is 50% bigger than the standard Copeland wheelie bin.

Following this warning, we also contacted the resident to discuss how they could reduce the amount of waste they produce. We did not receive a response to this request.

Following a further incidence of overfilling the bin, we issued a fixed penalty notice on 24 January 2008.

Following this, we wrote a reminder letter to the resident giving him the opportunity to pay the penalty notice, on 7 February 2008.

The resident chose not to pay the penalty notice, so we took legal action to prosecute for the original offence.

The case was not defended, and Whitehaven Magistrates Court chose to support our prosecution.

The Council gave the resident a number of opportunities to avoid a criminal record, both before and after issuing the fine.

The Council, like many local authorities, aims to reduce the amount of waste it sends to landfill, and offers a range of recycling facilities to help our residents do this. We must also enforce our waste policies to ensure that people do reduce the amount of waste they produce. If we do not follow the waste minimisation agenda that is being enforced nationally then we risk passing on major fines to all Copeland households.

23-04-2008, 04:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
John Connor Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Away for Summer Posts: 736 Party: None	This bloke is a bit stupid. If they came at me with a fine for overfilling my bin the answer would be "prove it was me and not a bypasser, or I'll ram the human rights act so far up your **** you won't be able to sit down for a month". Interesting bit in that article about the council not letting people put their trash out before 7am. Very handy for those who have to be at work for 7. __________________ There are three types of people in this world: Libertarians, fascists and those who haven't been paying attention. If you're taking notice of the environmental rants of a man who claims to have invented the Internet, exactly how low is your IQ? By definition, 49.9999% of the population are of below average intelligence. Hence, a NuLabour government. Three times. Users on ignore list: Akria, Besoeker, Clippo, david H, Ian C.

23-04-2008, 05:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ea of Dune Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hell Posts: 886	idiots As soon as an English Naionalist government gets in I hope they remove the criminal records people like this chap have recieved thanks to the f****ng idiots the Labour party employees in it's councils, police forces etc. What a goddamn joke. MKP> At least your comment about buring, lodding etc. make me chuckle Ea of dune

24-04-2008, 08:15 AM	#7 (permalink)
g hall Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,765	AND not one MSM organisation has (to my knowledge) explained why we're in this mess The EU directive regarding landfill and recycling don't these over paid highly educated well resourced people get it or are they f*cking stupid or in the conspiracy __________________ "That government is best which governs least." "This is a sharp Medicine, but it is a Physician for all diseases and miseries". "To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy --and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful."

27-04-2008, 10:40 AM	#9 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,249	I assume that, if the waste was only being collected once a fortnight, there were recycling boxes/bins available. I also suspect that much of the gentleman's waste was recyclable materials. I also suspect that he has been warned previously. That said, the way to achieve the recycling targets, which should be set to meet UK requirements and not those of the EU, is by education. Recycling is good as, on a small island, it reduces imports and managed properly creates work. There really is no point not recycling metals and plastics. Prices for metals are very high at present and, if peak oil has been reached, the raw material of plastic is becoming less easy to obtain. We only produce 5% of our timber needs and paper and cardboard are being imported unnecessarily if we can recycle. Our own landfill is nowhere near as full as Germany's and using shortage of landfill as an excuse is unacceptable. The council officers don't point out that the contracts for waste collection are often one of the biggest items of expenditure of a district council. If everybody refuses to cooperate by recycling those things that are recyclable then the council is wasting money signing contracts and taxpayers money is being frittered away. I am paying for the recycling contracts and the waste management contracts through my council tax. If other taxpayers make the contracts more expensive then they are costing me money. This man is costing other council taxpayers more money. Because I am aciduous about my recycling and composting I can put my wheelie bin out about once every 5-6 weeks. I am now getting a second composter to take the green waste I generate as the first one is full. I have an extra recycling box. It is easy and I do wonder how people can fill bins as most waste is recyclable. I think that jumping on people in these cases without warning is not right as it diminishes respect for the law, but coming down hard on people who are wilfully costing the rest of us money is fine by me. The landfill taxes, wrong or right, are a fact. When we elect a government that withdraws us from the EU then they might, and I only say might, be cancelled. Individuals making points about landfill tax at my expense are not clever. I don't want to pay increased council tax for the lazy, arrogant and politically illiterate to make their points. I am sick of people who complain about the way councils are run and political decisions are made, but won't even waste a few minutes every year to vote out the people they object to. If the guy is unhappy about the way the council enforces the rules he should get elected and change it (it is a distinct probability that he is one of the 75-80% of the people who don't vote in council elections). __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008 Last edited by Aardvark; 27-04-2008 at 11:09 AM.

27-04-2008, 10:42 AM	#10 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,249	Two sides to every story - no sympathy, the guy didn't respond to letters and didn't attend court, WTF did he expect? Waste Prosecution Information Waste Prosecution Information A Copeland resident was given a warning for overfilling his bin on 20 July 2007. This resident already had a larger 360 litre bin, which is 50% bigger than the standard Copeland wheelie bin. Following this warning, we also contacted the resident to discuss how they could reduce the amount of waste they produce. We did not receive a response to this request. Following a further incidence of overfilling the bin, we issued a fixed penalty notice on 24 January 2008. Following this, we wrote a reminder letter to the resident giving him the opportunity to pay the penalty notice, on 7 February 2008. The resident chose not to pay the penalty notice, so we took legal action to prosecute for the original offence. The case was not defended, and Whitehaven Magistrates Court chose to support our prosecution. The Council gave the resident a number of opportunities to avoid a criminal record, both before and after issuing the fine. The Council, like many local authorities, aims to reduce the amount of waste it sends to landfill, and offers a range of recycling facilities to help our residents do this. We must also enforce our waste policies to ensure that people do reduce the amount of waste they produce. If we do not follow the waste minimisation agenda that is being enforced nationally then we risk passing on major fines to all Copeland households. __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

23-04-2008, 05:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
ranter Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: in a parralell universe Posts: 827	Interesting bit in that article about the council not letting people put their trash out before 7am. Very handy for those who have to be at work for 7.[/quote] Has it not occured that everything that national and as in this case local govenment do is geared to punnishing and fineing the working man of this country.They need all the money they can squeeze out of us to pay for their pensions and the benifits of thier voters

23-04-2008, 09:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
Independent UKIP Uber Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: London Posts: 2,142	I saw on the TV reports on this a very smiley bloke from Copeland Council who had no shame, no contrition, no regret but complete and utter certainty that he and they were 100% correct in everything they had done. When asked about whether anything other than total closure of the bin was acceptable he smiled away that it was 'recommended' to residents that the bin be completely closed. He also chose to lie that landfill was becoming full. If there is one person worthy of getting a criminal record for some minor transgression of the law he would be an extremely worthy recipient.

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