g hall

OK then by black do you include or exclude mixed race ?
A lot of so called black is really just imitation yardie gang culture and the white and mixed race try harder

So not been about a lot then no wonder you're full of petty prejudices and narrow minded bigotry

Yeah and we had people from London move down when I was back home and some of them thought like you - ever watch Straw Dogs?

By real Londoner do you mean Bow Bells (not E3) or some little middle class suburb ?

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Hartlepool

Did you get a D+ or a D- bunnie?

jim h

Gun crime has soared in the UK since guns were banned, the problem is that although there is a severe penalty of 5 years in jail for possession of a firearm ( even if not used or an old war souvenir) criminals are not particularly worried by this because for them a gun is a symbol of power.
Effectively it has increased the general unease that exists in this country about the gang/gun culture.
All it did was to mess up the lives of tens of thousands of ordinary citizens who enjoyed the membership of gun clubs and other shooting activities.
Although we remain one of the leading nations in shooting competitions e.g Olympics it is far easier for our competitors to train abroad than in this country as the facilities to deo so here are few and far between.
NO WAY should Canada go down the route of banning firearms.

mark starr

Sadly emotion guided the decision to ban guns, it was not logical but that is the way many decisions are made . As has been said many times law based on one or two events is usually bad law.
The population in this country was never ever armed to the teeth with guns, it was a hobby enjoyed by many and banning did nothing to increase the security or wellbeing of the average citizen and just gave the criminal element a significant advantage since they were quite willing to ignore the law and as a result the number of guns in criminal hands has escalated dramatically, it is extremely easy to get a gun .

Hartlepool

You can't buy weapons and ammo in the UK,so ,who is importing them all,and,where from?

youcanhandlethetruth

Makes you wonder doesn't it ?

But I'm sure it's definitely not the government......

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The Guvnah

The final dis-arming of the populace was a knee-jerk reaction to the events of Dunblane. It was just the handwringing "...think of the children" response this government needed to 'justify' the act of leaving the citizens of the UK defenceless against violent homebreaking crims and leaving the state with the effective monopoly on the use of co-ercive force. Just WHY did Jack Straw(man) and Tony (Miranda) Blair impose an unprecedented 100 year ban on dissemination of the documents relating to the Dunblane 'massacre'? It wan't a massacre, it was one lone peadophile nut job that the police failed to pick up after ample warning. Google it to find out the supplementary facts behind Dunblane and the masonic involvement that secured this psyhopath's gun licence despite continual reccomendations (and a hefty track record) from the lower ranks to withdraw his permit. All part of the plan to get the ducks in a row and leave us prey to any tyrannical regime that appears over the political horizon. Nothing wrong with chucking lead at the right target.

jim h

The police advise 2 sources for the guns :-
Ireland ,there are a lot of guns in circulation and though there has been some decommissioning many handguns were retained by their owners , the cross Irish sea routes are no longer given the surveillance that they would have been 10 years ago ,all available anti-terrorist police concentrate on Islamic terrorists.
East Europe ,in particular , and the EU , in general . If you fly from the EU to Uk there is a good chance you would be stopped but coming across by sea almost nil particularly if you arrive privately or as crew on a merchant navy (incl trawlers) ship, even passengers on the cross channel would stand a good chance of not being stopped but any professional criminal would use one of the previously mentioned routes in.
Absolutely no point in banning guns as long as suppply routes from other sources are easily accessible. All you do is put the majority at the mercy of criminal elements and/or a dictatorial Govt.

ranter

If you are going to ban firearms you have to have severe deterents.When we rightly or wrongly banned firearms we should have stated that anyone caught in possesion gets 20 years.You have to make the punnishment make the crime an unrealistic risk