GUNS and Firearms in the UK

g hall · 14-04-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tara

Gun ownership was banned for law abiding people meanwhile criminal black gun crime has gone through the roof in British cities.

Your government wants to take away your defence against them when they play dirty in the future. Your government is your enemy.

I thought guns came in other colours and are used by all races - letting your prejudices show again aren't you

HighlandFP · 14-04-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Strangeday

Hello All,

I'm in Canada and near Toronto. Recently the city mayor has asked the federal government to try and ba handguns and semi-automatic firearms from private owernship. He points to England as a country that solved their gun crime by banning handguns. In a country where 1 in 11 people own a gun it is certainly stiring the pot. I was wondering if I could get some of your opinions on how sucessful a ban there has been...

Reagrds

I saw a YouTube video only today which said Canada had a bigger problem with guns than did the usOFa.

Hold onto your guns. Get more guns.

I believe only Love will defeat the forces of darkness, but if you value freedom and are a patriot. get more guns.
Oh and stockpile butter, and roses.

Tara · 14-04-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by g hall

I thought guns came in other colours and are used by all races - letting your prejudices show again aren't you

Stop the Guns - What is Trident?

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Young gun crime in London soars

The number of shootings and murders involving people aged under 20 in London's black community, has more than doubled in the past four years.
Figures from Scotland Yard's Operation Trident unit found the number of people killed or injured by guns had risen from 31 in 2003 to 76 in 2006.

Home Office figures revealed the number of people killed by guns in the UK dropped to 50 in 2006 from 75 in 2005.

In the last week two teenagers have been shot dead in south London.

Last Saturday James Andre Smartt-Ford, 16, was shot twice by gunmen who opened fire at Streatham Ice Arena.

Three days later, 15-year-old Michael Dosunmu was shot as he slept in his bedroom in Diamond Street, Peckham.

Operation Trident was launched in 2000 to reduce gun crime in London's black community.

Stop the Guns - What is Trident?

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What is Trident?
Trident is an anti-gun crime operation that was set up in 1998 to help bring an end to a spate of shootings and murders among young, black Londoners.

Over 300 police officers and 70 support staff work just on Trident. They are advised and informed by a group of black community leaders called the Trident Independent Advisory Group.

75% percent of London's gun crime involves the victim and suspect both coming from the capital's black communities. Trident was set up in response to black community members wanting the police to do something that specifically targeted the criminals affecting them. Trident only works because it is a partnership with community leaders combined with robust, intelligence based policing.

Trident's commitment to you is:

We will work with you to identify and target those involved in gun crime;
We will investigate and disrupt criminals who use guns;
We will work with schools, the community and other interested groups to try to prevent young people becoming involved in gun crime;
We will arrest and prosecute the criminals who provide the guns;
We will support victims and witnesses of gun crime;
We will support the work of the Trident Independent Advisory Group and other community led anti-gun crime projects.

This website is ©Metropolitan Police Authority.

The above links are a bit out of date, since they were published many more people have died from gun crime.

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Location: The flatlands of East Anglia but my heart is in the green rolling hills of Devon

Bless, being a naive country bumpkin you're painfully unaware of what goes on in London, thank heavens I'm around to put you straight.

Never fear when Tara's here!

Smidgey · 14-04-2008, 09:34 PM

Never give up your guns.

All the above reasons say it as it is.

HighlandFP · 15-04-2008, 01:11 AM

It Will Pass - Are Christians Biblically Obligated to Arm Themselves?

Communist V.I. Lenin said, "A system of licensing and registration, is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie."

I dont usually qoute............Jesus said, "When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace: But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils." (Luke 11:21-22)

Jesus has told His followers to "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves." (Matt.7:15)

Luke 22:35-36, "And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing. Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."

BonnieDundee · 15-04-2008, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Smidgey

Never give up your guns.

All the above reasons say it as it is.

The problem is in the UK the state has banned alot of guns already.

g hall · 15-04-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tara

Bless, being a naive country bumpkin you're painfully unaware of what goes on in London, thank heavens I'm around to put you straight.

Never fear when Tara's here!

Oh dear oh dear you see I lived and worked on the East London/Metropolitan Essex borders for 20 years so perhaps I know a little more then you think and still have family and friends there some of them have moved up from the South West.

but you weren't to know that were you

Tara · 16-04-2008, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by g hall

Oh dear oh dear you see I lived and worked on the East London/Metropolitan Essex borders for 20 years so perhaps I know a little more then you think and still have family and friends there some of them have moved up from the South West.

but you weren't to know that were you

If that were the case you would have already known about the alarming rise in black gun crime in the capital. Seems your prejudices of people speaking the truth got the better of you again, you really must learn to control these irrational lefty urges.

20 years? Is that all! I've lived and worked in London a lot longer than 20 years and so have most of the people I know.

"Some of them have moved up from the South West"

You do make me laugh. Like I'm going to take any notice of a a few sheep sh*gging country bumpkins over myself and other real Londoners.

Smidgey · 16-04-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee

The problem is in the UK the state has banned alot of guns already.

I know...

I was talking to the Canadian...

Hartlepool · 16-04-2008, 06:27 PM

Do try to keep up with the rest of the class Dumdee.

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Smidgey Uber Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2,167 Party: Libertarian Party	Never give up your guns. All the above reasons say it as it is. __________________ How vain is man, who boasts in fight the valour of gigantic might! -Georg Friedrich Händel

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HighlandFP Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ross-shire Highlands SCOTLAND Posts: 586 Party: Other	It Will Pass - Are Christians Biblically Obligated to Arm Themselves? Communist V.I. Lenin said, "A system of licensing and registration, is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie." I dont usually qoute............Jesus said, "When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace: But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils." (Luke 11:21-22) Jesus has told His followers to "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves." (Matt.7:15) Luke 22:35-36, "And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing. Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." __________________ WARNING: By reading or downloading this post you may be committing an offence under some or all of these Terrorism Acts. http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/securit...m-and-the-law/ EU = Ein Volk ~ Ein Reich.

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Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,660 Party: Free England Party	Do try to keep up with the rest of the class Dumdee.