For all those who still think we're in a 'police state'...

Eurosceptic Atlanticist · 25-03-2008, 07:12 PM

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Setting out a "new constitutional settlement", Straw said he wanted to update "how power should be exercised in a modern democracy".

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Other reforms would give MPs a say on the general election date, and would see 2005 restrictions prohibiting demonstrations around Parliament lifted.

That's awfully nice of them.

Source: ePolitix.com - Straw sets out constitutional reforms

EDIT: Can a Mod please tell me why, despite my repeated attempts to get the above into one quote box, the forum software keeps putting it into two?

Ea of Dune · 25-03-2008, 11:51 PM

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and would see 2005 restrictions prohibiting demonstrations around Parliament lifted.

They have got that wrong, protests are not prohibited, you have to ask permission to protest. I presume they mean the lifting of the exclusion zone around parliament?

ea of dune

mattyr2k8 · 26-03-2008, 12:42 AM

just another headline-grabber probably, i doubt anything will come out of this.

Eurosceptic Atlanticist · 26-03-2008, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mattyr2k8

just another headline-grabber probably, i doubt anything will come out of this.

This was debated in Parliament today. It's very real.

HighlandFP · 26-03-2008, 01:15 AM

Eurois sceptic Atlanticist, what is, " The Westcountry " ?

Is it west Germany? or is it a country to the east of the English Channel?

Eurosceptic Atlanticist · 26-03-2008, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by HighlandFP

Eurois sceptic Atlanticist, what is, " The Westcountry "

You can't be serious. If you are, try googling it.

Roland · 26-03-2008, 03:35 PM

May be just for once due to peoples good work 'we are change' they have got the message.

We shall have to see. It's also interesting the amount of time labour MP's have been questioned on BBC question time about the growing trend towards the Orwellian state.

We shall have to see.

Roland · 26-03-2008, 04:03 PM

Infact just thinking about it the conservative party (to be fair to them) have been absolutely hammering labour on these issue's for quite some time. It is clear that it's only their growing unpopularity that has made them change their mind.

It also should be noted that Boris Jonson (the london mayoral candidate if you get my drift) was a major player in a protest which surrounded the mile perimeter protest exclusion zone around parliament. Could this just be to try not to let Boris make ground over the issue.

Ea of Dune · 27-03-2008, 01:08 PM

I think Labour have been keeping this card up their sleeve until now. What with the GLA and London Mayor election about to start, lifting the exclusion zone has knocked an arrow out of the bow of all the Labour opponents who where going to use that in their campaigns, and draw support from the activists who live in London.
I think Boris as well, as you said above was anti the zone, so that's one less inch of ground he has got to play with.

Have they actually repealed the act, or just lifted the zone for the moment?

Ea of dune

NedBarrows · 27-03-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HighlandFP

Eurois sceptic Atlanticist, what is, " The Westcountry " ?

Is it west Germany? or is it a country to the east of the English Channel?

Essentially south west england with some variation.
From what I read, England is hardly a police state.. nothing quite like the totalitarianism filled united states :P

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Ea of Dune Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hell Posts: 586	Interesting I think Labour have been keeping this card up their sleeve until now. What with the GLA and London Mayor election about to start, lifting the exclusion zone has knocked an arrow out of the bow of all the Labour opponents who where going to use that in their campaigns, and draw support from the activists who live in London. I think Boris as well, as you said above was anti the zone, so that's one less inch of ground he has got to play with. Have they actually repealed the act, or just lifted the zone for the moment? Ea of dune

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26-03-2008, 12:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
mattyr2k8 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: England, United Kingdom Posts: 89	just another headline-grabber probably, i doubt anything will come out of this.

26-03-2008, 03:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
Roland Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 699	May be just for once due to peoples good work 'we are change' they have got the message. We shall have to see. It's also interesting the amount of time labour MP's have been questioned on BBC question time about the growing trend towards the Orwellian state. We shall have to see.

26-03-2008, 04:03 PM	#8 (permalink)
Roland Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 699	Infact just thinking about it the conservative party (to be fair to them) have been absolutely hammering labour on these issue's for quite some time. It is clear that it's only their growing unpopularity that has made them change their mind. It also should be noted that Boris Jonson (the london mayoral candidate if you get my drift) was a major player in a protest which surrounded the mile perimeter protest exclusion zone around parliament. Could this just be to try not to let Boris make ground over the issue.