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Highland Free Press
Welcome to the Frontpage Hi Pamela, It is good that your motto is Protect & Serve. My firm beliefs are that the Rule of Law, Freedom and Democracy can only be continued and increased by open debate and public knowlage. Here is a brief introduction to what I require. What I really require is all information available concerning Northern Constabulary, and its relationship to the European Union. Scottish Police Forces and their relationship to the European Union. ~~~~ Organisations: Europol is the European Law Enforcement Organisation EUROPOL, the European Police Office The TISPOL Organisation https://www.tispol.org/ Are there others? Relationships including the use of non-UK nationals Police in Scotland. New law will allow EU police to operate in Britain | Independent, The (London) | Find Articles at BNET.com POLICE OFFICERS from other European Union countries are to be allowed to operate in Britain under laws announced yesterday. e.g. I believe Foreign Nationals can become Policemen (and Specials) in Scotland if they have been resident in the UK for 3 years and have all relevant residence/work permits. ~~~~ Can you confirm that Common Law has now been replaced by the EU’s Corpus Juris, Have Scottish Police Forces undergone retraining? ~~~~~~~~ Will The European Defence Agency act a police in Scotland? European Defence Agency ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The use of private security guards demanding payments, for example as done by Inverness City Centre Management, STEFAN KRAUSE,Inverness BID Co-ordinator, 'security' officers. ~~~~~~~~ COMMON PURPOSE Home | Common Purpose Northern Constabulary, and its relationship to Common Purpose. How many officers have undergone Common Purpose training? How much has been spent by Northern Constabulary with Common Purpose? Is Northern Constabulary aware of the concern by citizens about the underhand methods of Common Purpose? ~~~~~~~~~~~ Please note that I wish no information that is secret or comes under the missnamed Freedom of Information Act. I expect all the answers are on your website somewhere. Love & Peace david allison editor@weddingscot.info Telephone: 07828 949584 *****ma wee hoose ***, Ross-shire Highlands >< SCOTLAND ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Two passions are not likely to die out of the world, the love of country and the love of freedom. They can be kept pure by one thing, which can tame yet not weaken them, tender love of all mankind." George Trevelyan in 1943 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I await answers to the above eMail to Press Officer Highland Constabulary If anyone has any supplimentary questions ...........
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You will not get a detailed reply since you have to request that information under the Freedom of Information Act. Even then there will be get outs. If the information is already in the public domain they can just point this out. They can also use the 'not economic' to gather the information excuse.
What you perhaps should have done was do a series of lettes over several months so that as one was answered on one issue you could send in a follow up on the next. CP info should definitely be requested separately under FOIA.
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REPLY RECIEVED - I also phoned the lady and said I thought the Freedom of Info thing cost £10.
She is going to go ahead and collect info for me. She said if cost gets up to £600 she will let me know........... ~~~~~~~~~~REPLY RECIEVED~~~~~~~~~~~ This email has been classified as NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED Good morning, Thank you for your e-mail. We can only respond to these questions under the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 and, I note, you have specifically stated that you "..wish no information that is secret or comes under the missnamed Freedom of Informaton Act".Therefore, I do not intend to continue with your request for information unless I hear from you that you wish to proceed under the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. Pame Sherriff Freedom of Information Coordinator ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I have asked her to go ahead. Sherrif is an interesting name. perhaps she is related to Sharif of Mecca. Sharif of Mecca - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Not fully wrong either since HighlandFP excluded the FOIA and I was trying to suggest he use it. The policy I use these days is always to ask for the information using FOIA or DPA as it makes it easier for disclosure to take place in a structured way and allows a complaint to the Information Commissioner to proceed more efficaciously if you dotted your 'i's and crossed your 't's. HighlandFP, It is unlikely that a Brit with the surname Sherriff is related by name to the Sharif of Mecca; more likely her ancestor was indeed a Sherriff or someone who behaved like one or looked like the local one (some surnames are a joke and are adopted nicknames). The local authorities do set financial limits on obtaining information and will only complete expensive research if you pay yourself. The easiest option for public bodies is to link everything to websites and just provide links. If people protest they don't have a computer they can be directed to local libraries that normally give a certain amount of free or subsidised access. In fact we are then led to 'information overload' as there is now more information in the public domain than any one of us can actually read and so it is getting harder to find the real gems of information.
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I forgot to mention that while of the phone to the charming Pamela,
I asked if she herself had heard of Common Purpose. She replied in the affirmative. I wonder if she is a single gal.
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Recieved a reply from the charming Sheriff.
This email has been classified as NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED Dear Mr Allison, The attached letter is in response to your request of 19th March under the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. Yours sincerely, Pam Sherriff Pam Sherriff Freedom of Information Coordinator Northern Constabulary Police Headquarters Old Perth Road Inverness IV2 3SY This email and any files transmitted with it is confidential and intended solely for the person or organisation to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not read, copy or disseminate the information or take any action in reliance on it and it would be appreciated if you would also notify the sender by reply email and then delete this email immediately. All messages passing out of this gateway are checked for viruses but Northern Constabulary strongly recommends that you check for viruses using your own virus scanner as Northern Constabulary will not take responsibility for any damage caused as a result of virus infection. Tha am Post D seo agus faidhlichean sam bith na luib diomhair agus a-mhain airson an neach no aneagrachadh gu bheil e air a chur. Mar a deach a chur thugad-sa chan eil coir agad a leughadh, sgaoileadh no letbhreac a dheanamh de fhiosrachadh sam bith a th'ann no bhith an urra ris an fhiosrachadh sin airson gniomh sam bith agus bhiodhte nad chomain nan cuireadh tu fios air ais air Post D chun neach a chuir thugad e agus an uairsin nan cuireadh tu as dhen Phost D anns a' bhad. Tha gach teachdaireachd a tha a' dol tron t-sioltachan seo air an sgrudadh airson galaran ach tha Northern Constabulary a' moladh gu laidir gun dean thu sgrudadh airson galaran a' cleachdadh na h-uidheim sgrudaidh agad fhein oir cha ghabh Northern Constabulary uallach airson milleadh sam bith a th'air adhbhrachadh air sgath ghalaran. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date: 15th April 2008 Dear Mr Allison Thank you for your request under the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 dated 19th March 2008. I have considered your request and am now in a position to address your questions. Firstly I should point out that the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 allows a request to be made for recorded information held by Northern Constabulary. Subjective questions do not fall into this category and cannot be answered using the mechanism of Freedom of Information. You have asked the following: 1. Europol is the European Law Enforcement Organisation – are there others? This information is not held by Northern Constabulary and under Section 17 of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 I cannot therefore disclose it to you. 2. Relationships including the use of non-UK nationals as Police in Scotland. Foreign Nationals can become Policemen and Policewomen (and Specials) in Scotland if they have fulfilled the residency and permit criteria. 3. Can you confirm that Common Law has now been replaced by the EU’s Corpus Juris? This is not the situation 4. Have Scottish Police Forces undergone retraining? See Q3 – therefore No is the response. 5. Will the European Defence Agency act as a police in Scotland? This information is not held by Northern Constabulary and under Section 17 of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 I cannot therefore disclose it to you. 6. The use of private security guards demanding payment This information is not held by Northern Constabulary and under Section 17 of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 I cannot therefore disclose it to you. 7. Northern Constabulary and its relationship to Common Purpose This organisation has not been used by the learning/training unit within Northern Constabulary 8. Is Northern Constabulary aware of the concerns by citizens about the underhand methods of Common Purpose? This information is not held by Northern Constabulary and under Section 17 of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 I cannot therefore disclose it to you. If you require any further clarification, please do not hesitate to contact me. However if you are not satisfied with the way in which your request has been dealt with, you are entitled, in the first instance, to request a review of the decision made by the Force. Should you wish to request such review, please write to me within 40 days of receiving this letter. I will arrange for a senior officer, who has not been involved in my decision making process, to conduct a review as required by the Act. If, after having been informed of the review panel’s decision, you are still not satisfied, you are then entitled to apply to the Scottish Information Commissioner for a decision. The contact details for Mr Dunion, the Scottish Information Commissioner are Office of the Scottish Information Commissioner, Kinburn Castle, Doubledykes Road, St Andrews, Fife, KY16 9DS, telephone 01334 464 610. Yours sincerely Pam Sherriff Freedom of Information Coordinator
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