Britannist

A majority now oppose ID cards for the first time, a new opinion poll in today's Times claims (please see the end of the following article):

Poll tracks anger over data loss - Times Online

rjt

Excellent news, it is vital people dont take their eye of the ball on this, pressure must be kept on opposition partys to state clearly they will repeal any ID card legislation this government introduce should they come into power.

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Britannist

Yes - Shadow Home Secretary David Davies has already written to those companies which are to provide the ID card technology to the Labour Government informing them that if/when the Conservatives return to Government they will cancel the ID card scheme.

In other words, companies which may have been told by Labour that their services in ID card technology could be required for many years to come have been warned (by Mr. Davies) that if the Government is defeated the days will be numbered for ID cards and companies involved in organising ID cards will find that what they thought was possibly a long-term project could turn out to be very-short term indeed.

Little Englander (sour)

Any chance of a link to this letter from DD, if true, I wonder if it will be binding when/if the Tories form a government. Would there not already be a contract in being with clauses covering such an eventuality. Knowing that the ID system has already been embarked upon, surely the companies involved are more astute than to just take Gordin's word.

Independent UKIP

It could well be a short term project but very lucrative for the companies concerned if the contracts signed by the current regime are long term. And the current regime have no problem in binding their successors on all sorts of other things like PPP, the EU and climate change.

Britannist

Please try searching the archive of the official website of the Conservative Party. Or contact the NO2ID campaigning group.

Britannist

From yesterday's Sunday Telegraph report on that newspaper's latest ICM poll (brief extract):

"The poll also shows continuing large backing for the Government's planned introduction of identity cards, a move opposed by the Tories, although the gap between those in favour and those against is narrowing. The cards are rated a "good idea" by 61% and a "bad idea" by 36%. Just under three years ago the figures were, respectively, 81% and 17%

Support for ID cards will slump dramatically when people realise just how much they are going to cost to buy (over £100 for each one is the latest figure according to the Telegraph a couple of weeks' ago).

Britannist

I have just done a search on the official website of the Conservative Party, Little Englander (sour), and have found a report on Mr. David Davis MP (the Shadow Home Secretary) writing to the Cabinet Secretary earlier this year about ID cards informing him that the Conservative Party will scrap these unwanted cards when it gets the first opportunity to do so.

I appear to have been wrong in earlier suggesting that Mr. Davis wrote to companies involved in ID card production/ID card system organisation. It was to the Cabinet Secretary to which Mr. Davis wrote and not to companies making or organising the availability of ID cards.

Here is a link to the article about this on the Conservative Party website:

Conservatives formally pledge to cancel ID card scheme - News Story - Conservative Party

Britannist

Reasons to oppose ID cards:

ID Cards: Labour's Bad IDea - Campaign - Conservative Party

Ihope

HOW MUCH WORSE THAN ID CARDS IS LOSS OF PRIVACY THROUGH ALL THE ARTICLES BELOW?

http://oceanit.com/index.php- this technology sees through walls and detects hearbeats and the heart rate.

'Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. This kind of liberal orientation has great appeal. We must electrically control the brain. Some day armies and generals will be controlled by electric stimulation of the brain.’ - U.S. government mind manipulator, Dr. Jose Delgado, Congressional Record, No. 262E, Vol. 118, 1974.

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