Thread: Common purpose on Google video

Well I just read an article about the NHS writing to Common Purpose because they where using Tobacco company funding to host courses which NHS staff members where attending.
Not illegal but I can see why the NHS might be miffed.

Ea of dune

I was digging a bit into its intellectual roots as claimed to be a product of the Frankfurt School by Brian Gerrish. Well here is something I was not aware of, according to this it is something that sprung from the Fabian Society. Some of this info I have come across before but here is a little snippet. Take it, as you will.

Theodor Adorno was a leading professor of the Frankfurt School of Social Research in Germany, founded by the British Fabian Society. A collaborator of twelve-tone formalist and British intelligence operative Arnold Schoenberg, Adorno was brought to the United States in 1939 to head the Princeton Radio Research Project. The aim of this project, as stated in Adorno's Introduction to the Sociology of Music, was to program a mass "musical" culture that would steadily degrade its consumers. Punk rock is, in the most direct sense, the ultimate result of Adorno's work.

Now maybe if you accept the premise that art can be used for brainwashing, as in say the Chinese 'cultural' revolution you can make sense of why councils promote it so much. So many grants available to the arts but a lot of 'art' is not what you were brought up to think it was. Frankfurt school = (vulgarism = art).

Some quotes from Bertrand Russell to give you an idea how they think.

"the subject which will be of most importance politically is mass psychology.... Its importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda. Of these the most influential is what is called 'education.' Religion plays a part, though a diminishing one; the press, the cinema, and the radio play an increasing part.... It may be hoped that in time anybody will be able to persuade anybody of anything if he can catch the patient young and is provided by the State with money and equipment."

"The subject will make great strides when it is taken up by scientists under a scientific dictatorship.... The social psychologists of the future will have a number of classes of school children on whom they will try different methods of producing an unshakable conviction that snow is black. Various results will soon be arrived at. First, that the influence of home is obstructive. Second, that not much can be done unless indoctrination begins before the age of ten. Third, that verses set to music and repeatedly intoned are very effective. Fourth, that the opinion that snow is white must be held to show a morbid taste for eccentricity. But I anticipate. It is for future scientists to make these maxims precise and discover exactly how much it costs per head to make children believe that snow is black, and how much less it would cost to make them believe it is dark gray."

"Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen."

Originally Posted by Baron von Lotsov

Some quotes from Bertrand Russell to give you an idea how they think.

The more you dig BvL the more likely it appears true.

Yes, history is a wonderful thing. If it fits like a glove into the general scheme of things then chances are it didn't just all happen by accident.

If you look into the IPPR and look at Russell's ideas then it is pretty much just that. It's mainly coming from the sociology departments of our universities. I have looked at some of their spiel and they seem to have their own language to keep onlookers out of it.

Originally Posted by Baron von Lotsov

Yes, history is a wonderful thing. If it fits like a glove into the general scheme of things then chances are it didn't just all happen by accident.

If you look into the IPPR and look at Russell's ideas then it is pretty much just that. It's mainly coming from the sociology departments of our universities. I have looked at some of their spiel and they seem to have their own language to keep onlookers out of it.

Have you found out why unsuitable people are described as 'too Ipswich' yet?

No, that's a new one for me.

Originally Posted by Baron von Lotsov

No, that's a new one for me.

It was in the opening video.