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Old 07-09-2005, 02:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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EU states should keep mobile phone and e-mail records for longer to help fight terrorism and crime, Home Secretary Charles Clarke has told MEPs.
Without such measures, European states would be fighting terrorism "with both hands tied behind our backs", he said.

Mr Clarke said telecommunications data proved valuable in the investigation of the London bombings.

He rejected complaints about intrusion INTO phpbb_privacy, saying there must be effective protection against abuse.
Heck let's all have webcams attached to a little stick on our heads. That'll help fight terrorism and if you don't like the idea of the cost or the intrusion INTO phpbb_your privacy, then you are for the terrorists.

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In a speech to the European Parliament, Mr Clarke said countries could only fight terror effectively if they knew what the terrorists were saying to each other.

All measures had to be proportionate, with "appropriate safeguards" against abuse and a clear legal basis for exchange of information in each case.
Moron. The terroists will find ways to communicate in code etc. The only people who will be effected by this or some future facsist governement are the ordinary citizens.

This guy is worse than Blunkett. He was blind, whats this muppets excuse?

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The industry says the plans are disproportionate, expensive and ineffective.
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The Home Office says the costs are acceptable.

It has published dossier saying that a UK Government-funded project by a mobile phone company to keep data for 12 months had cost £875,999 (1.291m euros).
We are the mugs who pay for this lunacy, we should decide if it's "acceptable"

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Mr Clarke says the British judiciary should respect controversial deals being sought with other countries to allow deportation despite poor human rights records.

Critics say such deals cannot guarantee that deported people will not be tortured.

Lib Dem MEPs leader Graham Watson said the human rights convention should not be changed in a "spasm" from recent events.
Britain should be able to do what it wants with REAL criminals. Perhaps this rancid government is trying to be so bad, that we will see EU as a sweet release!
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Phone companies of course charge Police for this information. £3 a time is I think the going rate. :? An increase looks on the cards !
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I find it terrifying that the Home Secretary still thinks that terrorists communicate by email. This is the man charged with coordinating our protection?
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He's a Moron, end of story.

We have an idiot, doing what his master Blair tells him, but incapable of even trying to spin it INTO phpbb_something reasonable.

It's going to get nasty in this country.
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How would you track Skype or any other VOIP service?!!
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You can get 24 bit encryption programs for MSN etc.

Seriously, anyone with half a brain or an ounce of intention will get around it.

Only the average Joe will get monitored, which this weasles in charge must know.

Which begs the question; Why do they want this massive amount of control over the people?
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Perhaps this rancid government is trying to be so bad, that we will see EU as a sweet release!
Bingo!
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Perhaps this rancid government is trying to be so bad, that we will see EU as a sweet release!
Bingo!
Sorry, can't agree. That implies that this government has the ability to be better than it is :shock:
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