Labour consider banning BNP

Simon · 09-08-2005, 11:41 AM

By Bob Roberts Deputy Political Editor
THE BNP could be banned under new anti-terror laws, it was revealed yesterday.

Home Office Minister Hazel Blears said the Government wanted to outlaw all extremist groups spreading "messages of hate".

Leading Muslims have called for the British National Party - blamed for sparking race riots across the country - to be included in the crackdown, along with radical Islamic organisation Hizb ut-Tahrir.

Asked directly if she would ban the BNP, she said: "What we are saying is where people are peddling messages of hate, glorifying terrorism in this way, that is the action we want to take.

"We set out what is unacceptable behaviour.

"Where people are indulging in this kind of behaviour, clearly we are going to take action."

Under the new legislation, unacceptable behaviour would include anything which "fosters hatred which may lead to intra-community violence in the UK".

Muslim representatives have said there must be a ban on ultra-Right groups to show Islamic groups were not being discriminated against.

Mohammed Shafiq, of the Ramadhan Foundation, told a conference: "If anybody is inciting hatred then that is wrong and action needs to be taken.

"I suggest we make a request to Tony Blair that the BNP and the National Front are also banned."

Labour MP for Tooting, London, Sadiq Khan told the Mirror the Government had backing in the Muslim community.

He said: "I do hold with banning the BNP or Hizb ut-Tahrir because I think we can take on these people and defeat them.

"But there is a perception in the community that Muslim groups are being picked on."

Mr Khan, a former human rights lawyer, said there were also fears mosques could be shutdown. He said: "Nobody should be in our community and our society preaching hate. But to link a mosque and those people who may innocently go along to listen to a sermon is a distant link to make."

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UKIP next!

mkpdavies · 09-08-2005, 11:47 AM

Consider the can of worms opened.

Specific incitment of murder or violence is one thing.

Hatred though, that is wooly to say the least.

John Carter · 09-08-2005, 11:50 AM

Halal slaughter inspires me to "hate" those who partake of its products. So are they going to ban that then?

Jean Pool · 09-08-2005, 10:37 PM

Go try it, Blears.

Max that publicity button one more time.

IceDragon · 09-08-2005, 10:41 PM

The BNP may be banned but would it mean that all the members of the BNP will simply disappear never to be seen again, Or will they form another group, another party?

Jean Pool · 09-08-2005, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceDragon

The BNP may be banned but would it mean that all the members of the BNP will simply disappear never to be seen again, Or will they form another group, another party?

I know many who (at present) will not join BNP due to past baggage but would gleefully jump on board something similar, but less tainted.

I see it everyday on this forum.

From every NuLab cloud raining on the BNP - there is a silver lining.

mkpdavies · 09-08-2005, 11:06 PM

Call it Veritas.

Jean Pool · 09-08-2005, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Call it Veritas.

Above and beyond that.

claire stone · 10-08-2005, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon

By Bob Roberts Deputy Political Editor
THE BNP could be banned under new anti-terror laws, it was revealed yesterday.

Home Office Minister Hazel Blears said the Government wanted to outlaw all extremist groups spreading "messages of hate".

Leading Muslims have called for the British National Party - blamed for sparking race riots across the country - to be included in the crackdown, along with radical Islamic organisation Hizb ut-Tahrir.

Asked directly if she would ban the BNP, she said: "What we are saying is where people are peddling messages of hate, glorifying terrorism in this way, that is the action we want to take.

"We set out what is unacceptable behaviour.

"Where people are indulging in this kind of behaviour, clearly we are going to take action."

Under the new legislation, unacceptable behaviour would include anything which "fosters hatred which may lead to intra-community violence in the UK".

Muslim representatives have said there must be a ban on ultra-Right groups to show Islamic groups were not being discriminated against.

Mohammed Shafiq, of the Ramadhan Foundation, told a conference: "If anybody is inciting hatred then that is wrong and action needs to be taken.

"I suggest we make a request to Tony Blair that the BNP and the National Front are also banned."

Labour MP for Tooting, London, Sadiq Khan told the Mirror the Government had backing in the Muslim community.

He said: "I do hold with banning the BNP or Hizb ut-Tahrir because I think we can take on these people and defeat them.

"But there is a perception in the community that Muslim groups are being picked on."

Mr Khan, a former human rights lawyer, said there were also fears mosques could be shutdown. He said: "Nobody should be in our community and our society preaching hate. But to link a mosque and those people who may innocently go along to listen to a sermon is a distant link to make."

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UKIP next!

Could be. BNP today, but could it be UKIP tomorrow?

Bluemerle · 10-08-2005, 10:50 AM

Civil war draws nearer. :twisted: :twisted:

09-08-2005, 11:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
Simon Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 391	Labour consider banning BNP By Bob Roberts Deputy Political Editor THE BNP could be banned under new anti-terror laws, it was revealed yesterday. Home Office Minister Hazel Blears said the Government wanted to outlaw all extremist groups spreading "messages of hate". Leading Muslims have called for the British National Party - blamed for sparking race riots across the country - to be included in the crackdown, along with radical Islamic organisation Hizb ut-Tahrir. Asked directly if she would ban the BNP, she said: "What we are saying is where people are peddling messages of hate, glorifying terrorism in this way, that is the action we want to take. "We set out what is unacceptable behaviour. "Where people are indulging in this kind of behaviour, clearly we are going to take action." Under the new legislation, unacceptable behaviour would include anything which "fosters hatred which may lead to intra-community violence in the UK". Muslim representatives have said there must be a ban on ultra-Right groups to show Islamic groups were not being discriminated against. Mohammed Shafiq, of the Ramadhan Foundation, told a conference: "If anybody is inciting hatred then that is wrong and action needs to be taken. "I suggest we make a request to Tony Blair that the BNP and the National Front are also banned." Labour MP for Tooting, London, Sadiq Khan told the Mirror the Government had backing in the Muslim community. He said: "I do hold with banning the BNP or Hizb ut-Tahrir because I think we can take on these people and defeat them. "But there is a perception in the community that Muslim groups are being picked on." Mr Khan, a former human rights lawyer, said there were also fears mosques could be shutdown. He said: "Nobody should be in our community and our society preaching hate. But to link a mosque and those people who may innocently go along to listen to a sermon is a distant link to make." Read more UKIP next!

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mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,158 Party: Libertarian Party	Consider the can of worms opened. Specific incitment of murder or violence is one thing. Hatred though, that is wooly to say the least. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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John Carter Uber Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Sabbatical Posts: 5,110	Halal slaughter inspires me to "hate" those who partake of its products. So are they going to ban that then? __________________ There are three kinds of people in this world: Libertarians, fascists, and those who haven't been paying attention.

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mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,158 Party: Libertarian Party	Call it Veritas. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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Jean Pool Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 884	Go try it, Blears. Max that publicity button one more time.

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IceDragon Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,048	The BNP may be banned but would it mean that all the members of the BNP will simply disappear never to be seen again, Or will they form another group, another party?

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