Tom Collier

R Gough, I do not see the point of your point. Yes, Executive culture heavily influences judicial priorities, but, I would have thought this govt would not embrace this sort of thing re: race relations - though the brutality, yes I can see. No, this was clearly a judicial or CPS decision. On what grounds are not stated. It seems the evidence was clear. It is shocking.

With speed limits, they should be raised, and I am sure John Carter takes neither silly risks nor enforced praise!

Elly Talbot-Cooper

I think in all probability more accidents are caused by people dawdling along and not "making progress" (in driving instructor speak) as everyone else gets fed up with them. Whilst no-one would advocate driving at 70 mph in a built up area the speed limits in force on many roads are completely inappropriate. 70mph is far too low as a motorway speed - I think it should be raised to 90mph and people should get pulled over for going too slowly. On the issue of driving I also think that you should have to resit your test when you get to the age of 60 as the amount of elderly drivers who don't know who to give way to at roundabouts in these parts is astounding!!

Percentage

Do i sense a formidable oponent for Mikeuk & his fogeyism?

I dont think this lady will be for turning!

Paul Birch

Well, I don't know who to give way to on our mini-roundabouts. The Highway Code instructions are (a) impossible to obey (there isn't room), and (b) ambiguous. Who gives way when two cars, each on each other's right, arrive at the roundabout simultaneously? Or when cars are waiting at all four junctions? I can't find a definitive and workable answer anywhere.

Elly Talbot-Cooper

The person with the best car gets to go first!!

Paul Birch

Are you sure you don't mean the oldest car? Or possibly the biggest?

Elly Talbot-Cooper

Am I sensing that you have an old, big car?!!

Paul Birch

I assure you that's a complete coincidence.

arden forester

There seems to be a view that breaking the speed limits is OK if you think it right to do. Are we suggesting law-breaking is alright for drivers? I think that if people want a change in the law it should be campaigned for, not for support of law-breaking as a cultural norm.

It's like saying a little lie is not as bad as a big lie. My point is that magistrates should hand down sentences with fairness. A policeman should not get off just because he needs his car for his job, whilst a thief gets jailed for stealing chocolate bars! It's still the property owner versus the rest! The property owner has rights, don't I know! but I also believe in fairness.

I don't have anything against SUV's 4x4's etc. It's the drivers who don't realise the speeds they do! I may get one one day, but I would go at the right speed. What a spoilsport I am!! :wink:

mkpdavies

When people didn't think the poll tax was fair, they didn't pay.

When people think ID cards are not fair, they won't accept them.

The granny not paying her council tax thinks it is unfair, so she doesn't pay.

Ninety (yes Ninety) odd percent of people KNOWINGLY break the spead limits. People think the speeding laws are unfair, so they break them. If the majority of people think a law is unfair, then it shouldn't be law. It is sad that people have to break the law, before those in authority do the right thing. Happens time and time again though.

More policing of the roads looking for REAL dangerous drivers. More intelligence being used instead of relying on fixed, limited arbitary devices. Focus on areas where there really are accidents, while leaving alone areas there are not. A complete overhaul of the road laws to take INTO phpbb_account todays technology and conditions.

If the government does these things, then perhaps the majority of people will again respect speed limit laws.

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