Co-op bank bars Christian group

John Carter · 24-06-2005, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by scotgirl

but it was from the angle of unfriendlyness when the B& B in question claims to be friendly and welcoming and then turning people away

That's a new way of spinning it. IIRC, the owner of said establishment simply didn't want gays in his house and the media kicked up a huge fuss about it. Nothing to do with claiming to be warm and friendly.

24-06-2005, 12:02 PM

banks have to be regulated to a certian extent its for the protection of the customers

they also have a code of conduct etc which they follow

but in this instance the closing of this account will have had nothing to do with any of that it would have been the banks decision to make

so if another bank decides they want this parties business then they can open the account there nothing stopping them

John Carter · 24-06-2005, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Birch

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

The bank has a right to say we don't want certain customers because of their character.

That would be true if everyone were at liberty to offer banking services in an open market. However, banking is now a regulated oligopoly (it shouldn't be so, but it is), a privilege offered to selected organisations supposedly in exchange for providing a common service to the public (though in reality more and more in exchange for providing a service to the state). In such a position they do not have the right to exclude customers on the basis of their religious or political beliefs; that is oppression.

Well put Paul.

I wonder how this will sit with our masters in Babel? Isn't it a right that anyone can form a political party with any beliefs? If the banks don't allow this, isn't it a breach of their rights?

24-06-2005, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by John Carter

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Originally Posted by scotgirl

but it was from the angle of unfriendlyness when the B& B in question claims to be friendly and welcoming and then turning people away

That's a new way of spinning it. IIRC, the owner of said establishment simply didn't want gays in his house and the media kicked up a huge fuss about it. Nothing to do with claiming to be warm and friendly.

however the B&B owner was still able to refuse them access so he had the freedom to do that

the media also had the freedom to report that a so called friendly hotel was turning customers away

John Carter · 24-06-2005, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by scotgirl

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Originally Posted by John Carter

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Originally Posted by scotgirl

but it was from the angle of unfriendlyness when the B& B in question claims to be friendly and welcoming and then turning people away

That's a new way of spinning it. IIRC, the owner of said establishment simply didn't want gays in his house and the media kicked up a huge fuss about it. Nothing to do with claiming to be warm and friendly.

however the B&B owner was still able to refuse them access so he had the freedom to do that

the media also had the freedom to report that a so called friendly hotel was turning customers away

That wasn't reporting - it was a witch-hunt - as well you know.

Didn't the Scottish Tourist Board remove his listing from their database because of his dislike for gays, rather than his not being "friendly"? More fascism from the monopolies, it seems - "do business the way we want you to do business or we'll cut your competitiveness by denying your free advertising which everyone else who agree with us gets".

24-06-2005, 12:27 PM

john it comes accross as your freedoms are only a one way street

B&B advertise as friendly and welcoming

but dont allow gays (which is thier perogitive)

so how can they be friendly and welcoming and then turning people away.

so lets get this right your wanting the media to be gagged on this issue and the tourest board letting people away with misrepresending thier place as friendly when obviously they are not. I wouldnt want to go to an unfriendly B&B who turned people away

Peter S · 24-06-2005, 12:34 PM

soon any party that opposes the fascist Labour party will have there bank accounts closed.

John Carter · 24-06-2005, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by scotgirl

so lets get this right your wanting the media to be gagged on this issue and the tourest board letting people away with misrepresending thier place as friendly when obviously they are not. I wouldnt want to go to an unfriendly B&B who turned people away

So let's get this right SG... You can only be "friendly" if you are "gay-friendly"?

Benjaminw1 · 24-06-2005, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by scotgirl

john it comes accross as your freedoms are only a one way street

B&B advertise as friendly and welcoming

but dont allow gays (which is thier perogitive)

so how can they be friendly and welcoming and then turning people away.

so lets get this right your wanting the media to be gagged on this issue and the tourest board letting people away with misrepresending thier place as friendly when obviously they are not. I wouldnt want to go to an unfriendly B&B who turned people away

Friendly and welcoming to those decent people who do not want perverts on their holiday?

Would you castigate them for not being friendly and welcoming if they turned paedophiles away then?

Ben

Alex McKee · 24-06-2005, 01:44 PM

It is discriminatory, IMO, if straight-people are allowed to kiss and snog, whatever else, and Gay people are not.

That's a fact. If the house rules was no snogging whether Gay or Straight then it would be acceptable, or if the house rule was that it was fine for Gay people or straight people to kiss.

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24-06-2005, 12:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	banks have to be regulated to a certian extent its for the protection of the customers they also have a code of conduct etc which they follow but in this instance the closing of this account will have had nothing to do with any of that it would have been the banks decision to make so if another bank decides they want this parties business then they can open the account there nothing stopping them

24-06-2005, 12:27 PM	#16 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	john it comes accross as your freedoms are only a one way street B&B advertise as friendly and welcoming but dont allow gays (which is thier perogitive) so how can they be friendly and welcoming and then turning people away. so lets get this right your wanting the media to be gagged on this issue and the tourest board letting people away with misrepresending thier place as friendly when obviously they are not. I wouldnt want to go to an unfriendly B&B who turned people away

24-06-2005, 12:34 PM	#17 (permalink)
Peter S Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 108	soon any party that opposes the fascist Labour party will have there bank accounts closed.

24-06-2005, 01:44 PM	#20 (permalink)
Alex McKee Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gloucester Posts: 6,665	It is discriminatory, IMO, if straight-people are allowed to kiss and snog, whatever else, and Gay people are not. That's a fact. If the house rules was no snogging whether Gay or Straight then it would be acceptable, or if the house rule was that it was fine for Gay people or straight people to kiss.