Thread: Not Expelled to Jordan

Abu Qatada deportation: Human rights mean terror cleric CANNOT be sent back to Jordan | Mail Online

No Deportation. why?

You come to a country to seek asylum and turn on the country that looks after you?

Why come to a country that has all faiths, to preach that one faith is better, then cry for help to go to a country that has more of your faith than the faith you are preaching against?

No matter what your faith, you have to admit, you would not want the opposite faiths to be preaching against you. No matter what my faith, I would not want to visit a place of worship that turned me against my neighbour.

Because he is a parasite and like all parasites it needs a host to sap and receive shelter from.

Originally Posted by lorraine

Abu Qatada deportation: Human rights mean terror cleric CANNOT be sent back to Jordan | Mail Online

No Deportation. why?

You come to a country to seek asylum and turn on the country that looks after you?

Why come to a country that has all faiths, to preach that one faith is better, then cry for help to go to a country that has more of your faith than the faith you are preaching against?

No matter what your faith, you have to admit, you would not want the opposite faiths to be preaching against you. No matter what my faith, I would not want to visit a place of worship that turned me against my neighbour.

In every other way than the strictest legal way he should be deported. I'm still trying to work out in my mind if it is a good thing that the strict application of law has won here - not as regards to the scum Qatada but on a wider scale. To me the law is too technical and has lost it's purpose of providing a decent society, but I can't think of a better alternative.

Abu Qatada isn't just a hate preacher. He's an Islamist Militant. According to Wikipedia:

He is wanted on terrorism charges in

Algeria,the United States, Belgium, Spain, France, Germany, Italy, and his native Jordan

Here are some of the activities this man has been involved of:

Abu Qatada has been described by Jamal al-Fadl, in his testimony in the Southern District Court of New York on February 6, 2001, as a member of al-Qaeda’s "Fatwa Committee". According to the indictment of the Madrid al-Qaeda cell, Abu Qatada was the spiritual leader of al-Qaeda in Europe, and the spiritual leader of the Armed Islamic Group (GIA), the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat (GSPC), and the Tunisian Combat Group.

The Middle East Media Research Institute claimed that, in 1997, Abu Qatada called upon Muslims to kill the wives and children of Egyptian police and army officers.
Abu Qatada is reported by the British press to have been a preacher or advisor to al-Qaeda terrorists Zacarias Moussaoui and Richard Reid.
When questioned in the UK in February 2001, Abu Qatada was in possession of £170,000 cash, including £805 in an envelope labelled "For the Mujahedin in Chechnya".
Nineteen audio cassettes of Abu Qatada's sermons were found in the apartment of Mohamed Atta when it was searched after the September 11, 2001 attacks, which Atta led.

The reason he is not being deported is because there are fears that he may be tortured in Jordan (oh the horror).

Of course, the European Court of Human Rights has no problem deporting a Scotsman on a murder charge to the US, despite the US having the death penalty and a history of torture themselves.

European court rules Scottish man can be extradited to US to face murder charge - The Washington Post

Anyone coming into a country and seeking asylum, is supposedly in danger in the country they have come from.
If you then try cause danger within the country that has taken you in, then is it fair to say, that you are endangering the people of that country.
If this is the case, your not in danger from the country you have come from, because no one in fear of their life would want to preach against the people of the country that has taken them in.
It then stands to reason, that the benefit of freedom of speech and the benefit system can damage the communities, if someone like this is allowed to use the system to preach against the people of the country.

Well Bwana, he has a problem, and the problem is, he wants to spread his problem, now how do we deal with a problem, do we allow all problems to come to a country where they feel they can spread the problem, or do we send them back so the problem does not affect the population as much in that country that it would affect another.
We don't really have to bring anything else into the equation, because we are only trying to bring a solution to that problem.