Thread: Islamic Exremists and MI5 - the link

This is a 100% true story and account of someone I know personally and very well. I will call this person X for reference. Some of you won’t believe it, some of you won’t want to believe it, and very few will believe it. but my duty is to tell story so that’s what I’ll do, how you treat it or react is your own doing.

Anyway person X has a close virtually life-long friend who I will called person M. X although born a muslim has probably been to as many prayers as me (which is none in the last 20 years). Person M is a practicing muslim, beard, prays regularly, etc.

They went on holiday in a small group abroad. Upon arriving at the airports they were all subject to very very thorough searches which my friend X thought odd as he was a regular traveler abroad. Upon getting to their destination and after a few days, my friend X being a sharp cunning individual realized he had seen an English couple at their holiday location who he had seen at the airport. Meanwhile his friend M is acting very nervous.

He again spots these white/English individuals on 2 other occasions at various locations as they travelled their holiday destination. Upon bringing up the subject with his other friends he notices person M acting even more suspicious. It seemed to him that they were being followed.

As I said X is a very sharp and cunning person, he knew something was up with M and continuously questioned him, something’s going on and you’re not telling us he tells M.

Upon arriving back in the UK they were again subject to very very thorough searches, person M being taken for questioning for several hours before they seen him again.

Now back in the UK he would be on M’s case constantly, WTF was going on? Who were those people? Why were they following us? You know something..!!!

Eventually M conceded when they were at a private moment, that he ‘works’ for MI5. At first M was reluctant to give any details and it took weeks of pressure before he even admitted that part. Obviously person X then decided to distance himself from M and also advised all their friends to stay away from him. M beginning to feel the pressure of losing his friends eventually decided to be more honest with X.

So basically what M told X was he had been working for them for 2+ years, he was given a number by someone who had forwarded his details as a potential employee to the MI5, they offered him £500 per month as a starting pay and would increase depending on the information he gave them.

They arranged a meeting, he had a quick interview and they sent him on his first ‘assignment’. They took him to a house and ask told him here lives a dodgy imaam from mosque Y, we want you to get into the house, tell us how many people live there, how big each room is, where all the doors are, where all the exists/entrances are, a draw a blue print of the property when you get out.

So he knocked the door and made some blag story and got into the house as a guest. He gave the agents all the info they wanted upon which they replied…congratulations you’ve passed the test.

Test?!?! What test?!?!? This was test to see how suitable or how useful you are, the ‘imaam’ you went to see is one of us (i.e. MI5). So his job with the MI5 started, they would send him on similar assignments to peoples houses, mosques, organizations etc.

My friend X was obviously distraught and upset by this and said to him, why or how could you do this? M replied you don’t understand, you don’t have a choice with these people they will f*k you up if you don’t do what they say. He was reluctant to go into any further details. He also complained that once you’re in, you don’t have a choice, you can’t just leave. X described M as being an emotional wreck when talking about them, and fear like he had never seen in any mans eyes. Clearly his life or livelihood was at huge risk.

M went on to explain that the agents would always boast we have at least 1 man in every mosque in the UK, many of them being ‘imams’.

Why have they sent imams preaching god knows what to so many mosques? Like the guys you see on despatches and panorama….

I always wandered why there was a group of ‘extremists’ who would use the same distorted quraanic quotes as the Islam haters. Such as the captain hook, abu hamza who I now have no doubt is also an agent. I know people who had been to some of his speeches and he would tell them sh*t like the Quraan says jews and chrisitians are apes and pigs, but the Quraan doesn’t say that, so how could he go around saying he’s an imam and the Quraan says that, or why would he go around saying that -when it’s clearly the opposite.

It also explains why such a beast was allowed into this country and write and publish numerous books, books which he had given boxes with hundreds of copies for FREE!!! Who the eff gives their books away for free? Where did an ‘asylum seeker’ get money to give away thousands of bogus bullsh*t books for free?

He had actually falsely created extremist views in people I knew, which had to be undone by going through these verses one by one by people who had proper knowledge, I mean these are same quotes as the ones that Francis and co likes to quote, and all the anti Islamic forums/websites – Quraan says kill everyone etc etc. jews are pigs, stoning for adultery, death to homosexuals etc. Nowhere does the Quraan say these things, but there are imams who preach such nonsense. Now we have confirmation where these imams come from.

It could be that these agents are there purely to find the corrupt extremists, but to me it seems they are trying to create them rather then arrest them -and I make that link because of the cr*p they talk about.

Anway its just some inside information into how they operate, an admission that they have at least 1 man in EVERY mosque, and most the imams out there are actually MI5 operatives.

It's becoming clearer that most CE bishops are Saudi Arabian operatives with small arms and IED background who glue pages of Koran in hymn books. Churches with stone foundations and strong buttresses are favoured.

Don't buy the agent provocateur story but I would be disappointed if MI5 wasn't keeping tabs on Mosques. Most people are doing nothing wrong of course but you're not going to come into contact with religous suicide bombers at your local pub karoke evening.
The seedy world of paying informants to suck them into the spying, we already know from John Le Carre's books.

Originally Posted by BCG Jason

I always thought the Abu Hamza story didn't make sense unless he was being used as bait for MI5 to monitor all the other rabid haters of the West.

You know despite my previous post, I always had a similar feeling about that clown Anjem Choudary, who is such a comic book Islamist, he doesn't quite add up. Feelings are no substitute for facts and evidence but will keep an open mind.

Originally Posted by BCG Jason

I'm with Alemc,

No surprises TBH, a colleague I work with has a muslim background but like Alec not practising also agrees that 7/7 was a false flag but said being from a British Muslim family no way was he going to blog like me because he might be set up like the so-called 7/7 bombers.

I always thought the Abu Hamza story didn't make sense unless he was being used as bait for MI5 to monitor all the other rabid haters of the West.

It could be a legitimate motive, obviously they would have to keep tabs if there is a threat, they would like to know about it obviously....

but there could be different agendas between the various factions of these agents, just like any group or organizations, different people have different motives and agendas....

I knew a guy who was a temporary fan/follower of abu hamza, and after every speech he went to he came back with some ridiculous quotes ill explain abit more detail the apes and pigs quote – its commonly quoted by anti Islamic groups the Quraan says jews and christiians are like apes and pigs, what it actually says is during the time of moses, a group of jews disrespected the sabaath by abandoning god and going to work on these days in search for wealth – those people are likes apes and pigs for ignoring their religious duties for just one day per week.

Every (well most) muslim is aware of what the verse actually states, so why would Mr Hook quote these verses out of context in the same manner as the anti islamists? What sort of preacher of Islam lacks the basic ability to interpret quraanic verses? This guy I knew then walks away with hundreds of books (given to him for FREE) supposedly written by mr hook to distribute to his friends, the books were unrelated to extremist matters and more general religious messages, well written with clearly a good understanding of the religion – so how could such a character get the basic interpretations mixed up?

The so called Islamic teachers telling Saudi kids that’s jew’s are like apes? I think the arabs can read Arabic better then anyone, so they could definitely not get such a thing mixed up. Myabe its just the way these were reported in UK….??

The kind of things Hook would say in his speeches, how was he allowed into the UK? When people like Dr Naiq are not allowed who are genuinely against war and extremism and who concentrate their efforts on teaching the everyday life aspects of the religion. Is there a god, why is there a god, how many gods are there, whats right, whats wrong, how should a man treat his wife, the science of creation – and these were branded as extremist views By Theresa May? But captain hook was given a visa and job seekers allowance whilst making public speeches and handing out thousands of free books? Makes an appearance on the front pages, gathers/brainwashed loads of maniacs to rally stupid messages in the public eye

If it wasn’t for the dodgy discrepancies of 9/11 and 7/7, as well as the proven links to past false flag policies, I would myself have said its perfectly acceptable for them to infiltrate mosques to find extremists, but to me it seems they are creating extremists to make a public display off rather than root it out. If people were presented with the information of the particulars of most terror arrests in England they would be shocked what crimes people have actually been committed, most of it under literature inciting hatred, and mostly for books/literature which is open to various interpretations, and giving charity to charities which are SUSPECTED in funding extremists. Like how me and francis have opposite interpretations to the same verses…..he thinks it preaches violence, I don’t, who’s right or wrong? Who’s to judge? He would argue I wouldn’t be a fair judge, and I would argue he wouldn’t be a fair judge.

One of my uncles was a close friend to Bhutto and well entangled with top p*ki MP’s including the prime ministers. There are numerous incidents of bombings at mosques which had American/british involvement, remote controlled devices etc being found with their logos on ‘em, there’s direct links between usa/uk funding AND training ‘terror’ cells, this is not speculative, this is fact, just not reported here, incidents of homeless people being drugged, strapped with bombs, set to marketplaces/mosques and then blown up. In a country where there barely exists records of inhabitants it’s not a hard crime to get away with, and its why the general public in Pakistan is so anti American, its not unfounded biased based on extreme religious teachings, it’s the activities of those people in their countries, the problems and deaths they’ve caused. I know one for a fact, no muslim would ever bomb a mosque, shia, sunni suffi wotever, they would NEVER bomb a mosque.

To me, i was born muslim, I’ve known muslims all my life, I’ve been to all the mosques out there and heard all the imams speak, even the guys who dislike certain western ‘traditions’ – I have never seen anyone who posed a threat to peace or security, usually they try to dissuade people from drinking, gambling, taking drugs, partying etc – they dnt try to end it for everyone else, just advise muslims to avoid it, and sometimes use inappropriate language/phrases in the process – which is usually done by referencing these acts to the ‘west’ or ‘modern’ culture, that doesn’t mean they oppose everything western/modern, it just means their English is cr*ap, or they’re stupid.

When has a muslim gone to a nightclub and campaigned to the clubbers? Or tried to bomb a club? Or close it down? Or stop people drinking at the pub? Or close down a brothel?

There are people with dodgy views yes, I know English fathers who wouldn’t allow their daughters to go clubbing, this doesn’t mean they pose a threat to national security. It just means they don’t agree with it.

The story above is not merely a story, it’s an incident which took place. Like I says a lot of people wnt want to believe it, but this guy was bullied into working for MI5 and he had no choice in leaving, he was clearly under some sort of threat, the same as Danial Obachike (spelling maybe wrong), the witness on the London bus at 7/7, they tried to frame him for murder because he was trying to get his statement out there – that’s the sort of threat person M was faced with in the incident I reported.

Too many people these days are too out of touch from reality, they think everyone and everything operates with 100% honesty and integrity, because british values of honesty and integrity were so well upheld and practiced by the people, unless you’ve personally experienced the opposite, it’s hard to believe it could happen. Some people think all cops are saints, but if their wife/daughter got strip searched and molested by 3 male cops (like my GF), and the seargant covers their *ss by breaking the law and not recording the search, as well the complaints commissions backing their case, then it makes you realize the corruption here can be just as bad as in Pakistan, just portrayed in more civil manner through fancy courts, smart dress codes, and un common words from the dictionary.

you're just the perfect example of a brainwashed individual.

perfect example of stereo typing about muslims.

and perfect example of a propaganda machine.

oh and i love you dearly....lol.