+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 27
1 2 3 11 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 262

Thread: BNP Chairmanīs statement on the Gaza incident

  1. #1
    Senior Member London Orbital has some supporters London Orbital's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    East End of London
    Posts
    1,368

    BNP Chairmanīs statement on the Gaza incident

    “Israel’s Gaza Affair” by BNP Leader Nick Griffin


    We have said nothing, quite simply, because it’s nothing to do with Britain, and therefore nothing to do with the British National Party. That is the simple answer to the number of newer readers who have emailed recently to ask why [the BNP] website has said nothing about the current number one international news topic - Israel’s targeted but massive air and ground response to indiscriminate but relatively feeble Hamas missile strikes on Israeli civilians.

    The fighting in Gaza is not a proper concern for a British political party - especially at a time when the Bankers’ Bust threatens the livelihoods of millions and what little remains of the social cohesion of our own country.

    One of the core tenets of our nationalist philosophy is that Britain should keep completely out of other people’s quarrels and wars unless there are clear issues of our own national interest to give us the right, and our government the duty, to interfere.

    Beyond that, as nationalists and not imperialists, we recognise the right of every other people under the sun to seek to secure self-determination on a patch of earth that is their historic and spiritual homeland, and the duty of every government of such a nation-state to protect its citizens from terrorism or oppression.

    That includes both the Israelis and the Palestinians, but while we instinctively would suggest that a land-for-peace, two-state solution is the most likely way to square their very differing ambitions, in the end it is entirely up to them whether they make peace or continue fighting from now until Judgement Day. It really isn’t any of our business.

    A superficially logical argument has been made by several of our readers to the effect that the endless television coverage of dead or injured Palestinian children (the anti-Israeli bias of the leftist BBC is particularly marked) will inflame Islamist extremists against not only Israel but also against other Western states, including the UK and our soldiers currently stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The reality, however, is not only that our troops should not be there in any case (and never should have been, for thy are two patches of howling desert that have nothing to do with Britain) but that Islamist ‘extremists’ need no ‘inflaming’.

    The massively influential Wahhabi and Deobandi sects behind most Sunni ‘extremism’ were alive and kicking, against the West in general and Britain in particular, decades or indeed a century before the state of Israel came into existence.Indeed, the destruction of Israel (which is the generally stated aim of all the far-left and Muslim demonstrators screaming and on occasion rioting outside the Israeli Embassy in London, and the generally unstated aim of the far smaller number of neo-Nazi cranks siding with them on the Internet) would most definitely not placate a single hardline Muslim.

    One of the fundamental lessons of the West’s long and at times desperate defence against Islam’s institutionalised aggression, sexual predation and imperialism, is that every victory for Islamic fighters reinforces the hysterical certainty in the word of the Prophet and in Islam’s self-proclaimed destiny to conquer the entire world.

    The destruction of Israel would not send Islam back into a peaceful slumber, but would merely inspire and radicalise a whole new generation of Jihadist fanatics with the idea that the hour of their final triumph against the ‘Crusaders’ had been signalled by the collapse of the latter’s ‘Zionist outpost’ on the eastern edge of the Mediterranean.

    This would lead as a direct and immediate consequence to:1) Renewed acts of ethno-religious cleansing against the non-Muslim remnants of the earlier populations of the Dar al Islam (lands which have already submitted to Allah);2) A fresh confidence in the plan to re-partition India and establish a contiguous ‘Moghulstan’ taking in Pakistan, the Kashmir, huge swathes of northern India and Bangladesh;3) A stepping up of the pressure through demographics and violence to reconquer further swathes of the Balkans and the southern edges of Russia;4) Even more strenuous efforts to hasten the conquest - by demography, immigration, conversion, subversion and, when the time is right, force - of Western Europe and, a generation or so later, North America.

    While Israel’s no-holds barred self-defence undoubtedly gives Islamist recruiters good material with which to radicalise some of their less motivated brethren, Israel’s extinction would provide them with even stronger arguments in favour of Jihad. The most elementary study of their rhetoric shows that they do not regard Israel as the great enemy, merely as the catspaw of Christendom.

    They may be right or they may be wrong, but that is what they believe; the destruction of Israel would therefore make them even bolder and more aggressive. Thus while we would oppose any move to entangle Britain in war on behalf of Israel, it is in our clear national interest that it should survive.Whether that survival is made any more or less likely by responding on such a scale to the cynical provocations by Hamas is another matter, but that judgement is for Israelis to make at the ballot box, and not for us.Westerners should concentrate on the key matter that concerns us.

    Our people must understand that Islam is not a mutated version of Christianity with a pacifist core in which the Meek will inherit the earth; it’s a creed of War and the Sword. It is inflamed by victory, and encouraged by successive advances. Once they start fighting, the only thing its followers understand is defeat. The centuries in which Islam has slumbered have all followed massive defeats which shattered the conceit that its date with Destiny and world domination was just around the corner.Tours, Lepanto, Vienna, and even in its lesser way Omdurman, all show that Islam defeated is Islam tamed. The burning of the ancient Library of Alexandria, the obliteration of Christian North Africa, the Islamist genocides in India, the destruction of Byzantium, the repeated rape of the Balkans, the ceaseless efforts to take Europe - all show that when Islam takes a foot it wants a hundred miles.

    That is the nature of the great Beast of our times. It can be defeated and put back to sleep. Its modern prestige and especially the power of the Sunni and Shi-ite fundamentalists in Saudi Arabia and Iran is based on one thing. It certainly isn’t military prowess, as the American, British and Israeli machines have all shown over and over again. Nor is it about guerrilla warfare successes of the kind seen in Afghanistan and Lebanon, which may yet emerge in Gaza. The real motor of Jihad is oil money.

    The move to a post-oil world will be difficult even for the West, but once it is properly underway the resulting crash in the income of the fundamentalist paymasters of Islamic expansionism and terror will force them to stop worrying about conquering the world and to concentrate on looking after their own people or risk ending up riddled with bullets.

    It can’t happen too soon, and developing the technologies and economic model needed to wean ourselves off oil, and the perpetual growth superstition it has fostered, is the very best way to deal with the instability of a Middle East that should have nothing to do with us. In the meantime, we will go back to ignoring Gaza and concentrate on the things that matter to our people.



    ?Israel?s Gaza Affair? by BNP Leader Nick Griffin : The British National Party
    Last edited by London Orbital; 07-01-2009 at 08:26 PM.

  2. #2
    Trusted Member angelman is a jewel in the rough angelman is a jewel in the rough angelman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    here
    Posts
    5,179

    Quote Originally Posted by London Orbital View Post
    We have said nothing, quite simply, because it’s nothing to do with Britain, and therefore nothing to do with the British National Party.
    Quite right. The Germans exterminating the Jews was nothing to do with Britain. The Tutsis being massacred by the Hutu was nothing to do with Britain. The Genocide in Darfur has nothing to do with Britain.

    Quite frankly that first sentence is so asinine that I couldn't be bothered to waste my time reading something so idiotic.

  3. #3
    Uber Member Northumbrian has some supporters
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Newcastle upon Tyne, England
    Posts
    4,008

    Here's an idea. Shouldn't matters concerning defence or the military be answered by the head people in the military, as opposed to the politicians?

  4. #4
    Trusted Member The Wanderer is doing well The Wanderer's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Hereford
    Posts
    2,303

    Reasonable. With some **** thrown in aswell. Some of The comments following the article on the BNP page make me want to vomit though.

  5. #5
    Trusted Member Adrian Davies has some supporters
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    London
    Posts
    469

    Quote Originally Posted by The Wanderer View Post
    Reasonable. With some **** thrown in aswell. Some of The comments following the article on the BNP page make me want to vomit though.
    The comments that you so dislike are probably driven by a (perceived) need to overcompensate for past utterances to very different effect!
    Adrian Davies

    "Now is the winter of our discontent"

  6. #6
    Trusted Member Wowbanger TIP is doing well Wowbanger TIP's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    unacknowledged legislator of the world
    Posts
    5,815

    Quote Originally Posted by angelman View Post
    Quite right. The Germans exterminating the Jews was nothing to do with Britain. The Tutsis being massacred by the Hutu was nothing to do with Britain. The Genocide in Darfur has nothing to do with Britain.

    Quite frankly that first sentence is so asinine that I couldn't be bothered to waste my time reading something so idiotic.
    And they were something to do with Britain?

    Its time to face up to reality, there is nothing we can do about it even if we wanted to spill British blood and gold in the defense of a people that given the choice would rather we were dead than alive.
    immanentize the eschaton!

  7. #7
    Senior Member London Orbital has some supporters London Orbital's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    East End of London
    Posts
    1,368

    Quote Originally Posted by angelman View Post
    Quite right. The Germans exterminating the Jews was nothing to do with Britain. The Tutsis being massacred by the Hutu was nothing to do with Britain. The Genocide in Darfur has nothing to do with Britain.

    Quite frankly that first sentence is so asinine that I couldn't be bothered to waste my time reading something so idiotic.
    The British people would have been utterly horrified to have been informed sometime during WW11 they were in fact sacrificing their lives on a massive scale merely to rescue the poor Jews.

    Which is one reason they were not told about these events until after the war had finished - despite all the attempts that have since been made to recast our national struggle for survival as a war against racism.

    There would be nothing at all asinine about a refusal to sacrifice British lives in places like Darfur which have nothing to do with this country.

    Britain should only involve itself in wars in its own self defence or in defence of its interests elsewhere.

    The Tutsis being massacred by the Hutu is of no concern to most people living in Britain.

  8. #8
    Trusted Member The Wanderer is doing well The Wanderer's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Hereford
    Posts
    2,303

    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian Davies View Post
    The comments that you so dislike are probably driven by a (perceived) need to overcompensate for past utterances to very different effect!
    Take a look, they've got one bloke advocating Isreal are entitled to 'lebensraum' all over the middle east

    I get the feeling that this is what happens when you use the same propaganda to recruit members as you use to gain votes.

  9. #9
    Trusted Member angelman is a jewel in the rough angelman is a jewel in the rough angelman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    here
    Posts
    5,179

    OK fine. All these international incidents do not directly affect us. If we all took the view of sticking our heads up our backsides to try and find our brains, then they would be speaking Russian from Tokyo to Calais.

  10. #10
    Uber Member Northumbrian has some supporters
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Newcastle upon Tyne, England
    Posts
    4,008

    Quote Originally Posted by angelman View Post
    OK fine. All these international incidents do not directly affect us. If we all took the view of sticking our heads up our backsides to try and find our brains, then they would be speaking Russian from Tokyo to Calais.
    Would you intervene if the cost was greater to us than not intervening?

    If so, what would be the maximum cost you would want our nation to suffer to alleviate someone else's suffering?

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 27
1 2 3 11 ... LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts