Thread: The New 10 Commandments BBC2-Scotland Sunday 7 December 22.50-00.30,

Ha ha,

I like your style sweetcaroline !

If I may quote one of your ex-president's:
(Please replace man with woman, he with she and "in error" with "isn't sure" )

"Any man worth his salt will stick up for what he believes right, but it takes a slightly better man to acknowledge instantly and without reservation that he is in error." - Andrew Jackson

I really like people who admit they don't know and love people who admit they are wrong even more. I always try to admit I'm wrong too.

Please don't say "That's all" - I'll start thinking you're afraid of me or something.

I can be very blunt, outspoken and even sometimes offensive on the forum, but I always try to respect people(well not always but I try to).

Even if people don't agree with me, I need to learn to repect their opinion, but actually in your case, I think you give a very balanced view.

Anyway, Hats off and much respect to you for that !

P.S Have you heard the song "Caroline" by Status Quo ?

Originally Posted by sweetcaroline

Peter Dow, its a shame (perhaps) your initial ten minutes of fame do not extend to a wider audience. But maybe I will get to see it later on.... via alternative means

Alternative means coming up ...

The 'Right to Freedom of Assembly' chapter (directed by David Graham Scott) of 'The New Ten Commandments' which profiled Scottish republican socialist author and protester Peter Dow (that's me ) and which featured my protest against the Queen at the Scottish Parliament, Holyrood, Edinburgh is now available for download from Scottish Republican News.



Perhaps for a limited time only, this chapter in which I star can be seen on YouTube too, entitled 'Scottish republican socialist Peter Dow, author and protester'.

Scottish republican socialist Peter Dow, author and protester (YouTube)
YouTube - Scottish republican socialist Peter Dow, author and protester

Originally Posted by sweetcaroline

I believe we all get our 15 mins of fame - but this might come at any time in our lives - so make the most of it when it comes!!!!

I'm not sure if a republican protest against the queen is my cup of tea, and also whether it falls under 'human rights' or is a freedom of speech to put across ones views - maybe the two are the same these days! We do hear so much "that's my human right ...... (to do whatever)", its a catch-all it seems.
Just wondering, does the Scottish dimension play a part in the republican protest or is that irrelevant to the argument in this case?

Well of course while we British are sipping our tea and Queen Elizabeth is head of state, we might be watching the news describing all kinds of death and disaster in Britain and in the rest of the world which the incompetence of the Queen as head of state does nothing to prevent and which does a lot to allow.

For example, while Britons sipped their tea, the Dunblane Primary School massacre occurred - 16 children and their teacher shot dead - and the gunman had a UK firearms certificate. That's UK - United Kingdom, head of state Queen Elizabeth. So those children are dead 100% due to the Queen and those who support the Queen. Pomp and circumstance - it wasn't; bloody murder allowed by the Queen and UK state, it was.

So understand when people "like the Queen" - they like the fact that innocent children and adults are to die at the Queen's incompetent hands whenever her ministers and officers get things wrong as they frequently do.

The Dunblane massacre is only one example - my goodness there are so many more crimes against people and state incompetence leading to disaster - like the Piper Alpha disaster, 167 dead in an oil-rig fire - and for anyone to be so ignorant and so stupid as to expect the UK or ANY state to succeed in protecting people and saving lives with a head of state as USELESS as Queen Elizabeth - well anyone who thinks that DESERVES no milk in their tea and no sugar either!
So is that no sweetener in your tea from now on SweetCaroline?



Now people have a simple choice -

• sit back and sip your tea, milk and sugar and watch TV while innocent people die thanks to the Queen and simply cheer the Queen as innocents die, bathe in the blood of the Queen's victims as you have done all your life, or,
• sip the bitter taste of truth in my website - the Scottish National Standard Bearer website then register for my For Freedom Forums where all the difficult points you just can't understand will be explained to you - then when you understand all that needs to be understood YOU will be wanting to protest against the Queen at ANY parliament - such as Westminster or Holyrood.

Originally Posted by sweetcaroline

In what manner are the new commandments being given? Commandments suggest a certain forcefulness to agree.

Well for example, when monarchs have denied people's rights in the past, such as the French Kings, the Russian Tsars and King Charles I they have been executed. The purpose of execution was not to get the Kings and Queens to agree sweetcaroline but to get them dead where they could harm no more people with their cruel, evil and stupid rule. For is it not ALWAYS an evil thing to have a stupid person in charge?

When you are ready to support the execution or assassination of Queen Elizabeth and the Windsor royal family successors to the throne for the crime of treason against the British people, for allowing their state to deny the people their rights, enslaving the stupid masses with BBC brainwashing and state terror against the few who can think for themselves, and for allowing the death and disaster to innocents which follows THEN you are being forceful enough to defend human rights and therefore the lives of innocents in this country and the world.


PS. Well when sweetcaroline mentioned tea, I just assumed she was British - but I note her location is America - so in case she is American, I have something to say to her on that score too -
Attention Americans! Who are your true friends? Not the Windsors!

I think you are a true character, so I will forgive you for being a Socialist (and therefore a supporter of theft).

Keep on fighting for what you believe!

Originally Posted by mkpdavies

I think you are a true character, so I will forgive you for being a Socialist (and therefore a supporter of theft).

Keep on fighting for what you believe!

Theft is anti-social and therefore anti-socialist.

Now when the United Kingdom state taxes people to enslave us with the UK state officers - well I suppose that is state theft of a sort - but only because of the nature of the UK royalist fascist police state - it takes your money and spends it the way it wants - you have no say - you either agree with the BBC brainwashing or if you protest you get arrested, tortured, jailed and maybe sectioned too.

Under a democratic republican government where citizens have a say over how your tax is spent, taxation is not theft.

But if you decide that you are for removing the monarchy to end the theft of UK taxation, you may well be a socialist after all!

However, I can well understand that in order to defend theft, you will support monarchy. Isn't that called "aiding and abetting"?

Under a democratic republican government where citizens have a say over how your tax is spent, taxation is not theft.

People are individuals, not one big collective. Just because the majority want something, doesn't excuse it. Extreme eg you could have the English voting to take 90% of Scottish people's earnings.

But if you decide that you are for removing the monarchy to end the theft of UK taxation, you may well be a socialist after all!

I have no loyalty to the useless bunch of cretins who have surrendered my country and freedom to the EU. If a Socialist means someone who believes in voluntary co-operation, then you can call me it.

However, I can well understand that in order to defend theft, you will support monarchy. Isn't that called "aiding and abetting"?

I don't support it.

Originally Posted by mkpdavies

People are individuals, not one big collective. Just because the majority want something, doesn't excuse it. Extreme eg you could have the English voting to take 90% of Scottish people's earnings.

I know that. That is what most people don't understand. Didn't you hear me say in the film

Quote me -
Democracy does not mean, and has never meant, "dictatorship by the majority", it means "government by all the people"

Did you hear it but not remember it? Did you watch the film? Otherwise, why do you think I am "a true character"?

So what if the majority-supported UK state wants to turn the dissenting minority into slaves with no say? Majority-support is no excuse - turning people into slaves with no say is a cause for revolution - a velvet revolution or a revolution won by war.

The minority should fight for their rights by removing the monarchy for a start. I am glad to see that you don't support the monarchy!

What will you do with that freedom? Will you fight?

Democracy does not mean, and has never meant, "dictatorship by the majority", it means "government by all the people"

Yep I heard it. It sounded like woolly warm words that don't really mean anything to me.

Maybe you can expand on what it does mean. Are you saying that this majority couldn't vote to impose taxation on people who don't want to pay it then? If so, cool.

What will you do with that freedom? Will you fight?

I fight for freedom at every opportunity. While I don't support the monarchy and would quite happily see them gone, I don't see them as a primary threat, as you do.

I shall focus my energies on the people who actually are making imposing the laws, not the rubber stamp merchants.

Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Yep I heard it. It sounded like woolly warm words that don't really mean anything to me.

Maybe you can expand on what it does mean. Are you saying that this majority couldn't vote to impose taxation on people who don't want to pay it then? If so, cool.


I fight for freedom at every opportunity. While I don't support the monarchy and would quite happily see them gone, I don't see them as a primary threat, as you do.

I shall focus my energies on the people who actually are making imposing the laws, not the rubber stamp merchants.

In practical terms the state can do whatever the hell it likes until a significant minority of people start saying that it is the right and proper job of patriotic military personnel - serving or veterans - to remove the head of state - by arrest, by exile, by assassination, whatever it takes.

So long as people say - "Well the British military must be expected to fight for Queen AND Country" and just shrug when they, as per usual, fight for the Queen and let the country go all to hell by NOT fighting the Queen, the UK state will do whatever it wants.

(And by "Queen" in this context I mean her and Prince Charles, Philip, etc.)

If instead a significant minority start to say - "Look, if you British military want to hold your heads up high as proud patriots, then in the name of patriotism stop surrendering to the Queen and instead starting fighting for your country by going to war with the Queen" - then at that new point the state can be stopped.

Democracy is a theory and in theory, it means government by the all the people, which means many things such as

- no taxation without representation - and that doesn't mean you get to have your elected representative booted out of parliament every time he or she speaks in a way which annoys the majority in parliament as happens in the UK parliaments

- rights to you as a citizen to speak out and to protest when someone is trying to impose something against your will - and that doesn't mean a right to protest and then a right for the state to arrest you for protesting as happens under the UK rule

Now the right to have your say doesn't mean that on every issue you will have your way because on some issues, people want different things which are contradictory - but you are, if you like, constitutionally guaranteed (in a true democracy) the right to have your way in so far as that means the right to have your say.

Now democracy in a pure form may never be achievable but we can't expect to have ANY democracy with Queen Elizabeth as head of state so if you seriously want any say as a minority then you need to remove the Queen, the monarchy and have a republic and an elected president who defends your democratic constitutional rights.