News Petition - We need a dedicated Military & Veterans Hospital in UK

Bluemerle · 10-08-2008, 08:28 AM

I wonder if you can help? We are trying to assist with a petition to the UK Government to create a dedicated Military & Veterans Hospital within the UK

To give you some background, 2 Para have already sent back over 50 casualties to the UK from their current tour alone. Selly Oak, the only military dedicated ward in UK, cannot accommodate anywhere near this number, so when all of the casualties from other battle groups are added to the figure, how is ONE ward in an NHS hospital going to cope?

In truth it cannot !!!! The individual troops are sent home to recover, relying on NHS and the visiting services available, which themselves are over committed.

More names are needed for this petition, and quite cynically, " Downing Street " has put a time limit of one month for this to be achieved.

Sign now and do what you can. Please click the link below to sign, you will receive and email to confirm your signature.

We need as many people as possible to sign this petition before 14th August. Could you also if in agreement please pass this on to as many people as possible and ask them to do the same thing?

Lets all send a 'LOUD' message to London !!

Petition to: Create a dedicated Military & Veterans Hospital within the UK.

kernow · 10-08-2008, 10:52 AM

Well done Bluemerle! I totally agree!

Westcountryman · 10-08-2008, 09:42 PM

Just one question...why should troops get priority over civilians? Is this Zimbabwe?

Yes, they do a difficult job, but when I went into the AFCO I knew full well what I'd be signing up for. Sure, give them priority for serious injury (like all patients get), but other than that why the extra provision.

About the only case I'd support such a move is if there's evidence of troops being put at risk because of staff behaviour (eg. the cases where Muslim employees were mistreating troops in hospital).

kernow · 11-08-2008, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Westcountryman

Just one question...why should troops get priority over civilians?

Troops (All armed services) should get priority in my opinion for at least two reasons.(a) the armed services are our first line of defence, they are the Countries "Bouncers". (b) In 'civy street' the opposition are after your job! In the armed services the opposition are after your life!

Westcountryman · 11-08-2008, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kernow

Troops (All armed services) should get priority in my opinion for at least two reasons.(a) the armed services are our first line of defence, they are the Countries "Bouncers". (b) In 'civy street' the opposition are after your job! In the armed services the opposition are after your life!

Sure, they do a great job, but where does it end? Are you telling me that our police officers, nurses etc don't also do a great job? After all, police officers, paramedics and the fire brigade (not to mention the coast guard, RNLI volunteers etc) put their lives on the line on a daily basis. They have to make do with NHS treatment, so why are soldiers so different?

Stephen Booth · 15-08-2008, 06:43 PM

In the old days they had proper separate military hospitals, and each of the armed services had doctors and nurses in separated corps. This is how it should be. These places seem to have all been closed down and either pulled down or left to rot. It is shameful.

It is about time that people started to take this war against terror seriously and to treat it as a war.

Purging The Liberal · 17-08-2008, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Westcountryman

Sure, they do a great job, but where does it end? Are you telling me that our police officers, nurses etc don't also do a great job? After all, police officers, paramedics and the fire brigade (not to mention the coast guard, RNLI volunteers etc) put their lives on the line on a daily basis. They have to make do with NHS treatment, so why are soldiers so different?

I'm sure you'd have soldiers slap bang in the middle of a ward full of hostile patients (not naming names, for the sake of PC Thatcherites). Just so you could save a few pennies.

kernow · 17-08-2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Westcountryman

Sure, they do a great job, but where does it end? Are you telling me that our police officers, nurses etc don't also do a great job? After all, police officers, paramedics and the fire brigade (not to mention the coast guard, RNLI volunteers etc) put their lives on the line on a daily basis.

Agreed! But in general their opposition isn't out to kill them! Agreed some of them at times have to face young thugs interfering with them working, (these thugs by the way ought to be flogged). Terrorists living freely in this Country would delight in killing service men or women if they could and an injured or ill service man or women is an easy target in a public Hospital! As long as we have people living in this Country who celebrate when British armed services personnel are killed or injured abroad, public hospitals in my opinion are a risk for injured British services men and women!

Wowbanger TIP · 17-08-2008, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Westcountryman

Sure, they do a great job, but where does it end? Are you telling me that our police officers, nurses etc don't also do a great job? After all, police officers, paramedics and the fire brigade (not to mention the coast guard, RNLI volunteers etc) put their lives on the line on a daily basis. They have to make do with NHS treatment, so why are soldiers so different?

How many nurses, paramedics have been KIA recently? Causalities even among Firemen, the police etc are rare. Construction work and trucking are both far more dangerous jobs, however unlike the Public Sector they don't have unions and the press to constantly whine about the 'risks' they run "on our behalf". Nor do they have generous pay and conditions or gold plated pensions

Gregory Lauder-Frost · 17-08-2008, 01:28 PM

There used to be an excellent military hospital on Millbank, SW1. It was closed down in the past decade. Is there any substantive difference between the three parties at Westminster on issues such as this?

10-08-2008, 08:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
Bluemerle Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dorset. Posts: 3,253	Petition - We need a dedicated Military & Veterans Hospital in UK I wonder if you can help? We are trying to assist with a petition to the UK Government to create a dedicated Military & Veterans Hospital within the UK To give you some background, 2 Para have already sent back over 50 casualties to the UK from their current tour alone. Selly Oak, the only military dedicated ward in UK, cannot accommodate anywhere near this number, so when all of the casualties from other battle groups are added to the figure, how is ONE ward in an NHS hospital going to cope? In truth it cannot !!!! The individual troops are sent home to recover, relying on NHS and the visiting services available, which themselves are over committed. More names are needed for this petition, and quite cynically, " Downing Street " has put a time limit of one month for this to be achieved. Sign now and do what you can. Please click the link below to sign, you will receive and email to confirm your signature. We need as many people as possible to sign this petition before 14th August. Could you also if in agreement please pass this on to as many people as possible and ask them to do the same thing? Lets all send a 'LOUD' message to London !! Petition to: Create a dedicated Military & Veterans Hospital within the UK.

10-08-2008, 09:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Westcountryman Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Westcountry. Posts: 5,918 Party: None	Just one question...why should troops get priority over civilians? Is this Zimbabwe? Yes, they do a difficult job, but when I went into the AFCO I knew full well what I'd be signing up for. Sure, give them priority for serious injury (like all patients get), but other than that why the extra provision. About the only case I'd support such a move is if there's evidence of troops being put at risk because of staff behaviour (eg. the cases where Muslim employees were mistreating troops in hospital). __________________ Manus haec inimica tyrannis ense petit placidam sub libertate quietam - "This hand of mine, which is hostile to tyrants, seeks by the sword quiet peace under liberty."

15-08-2008, 06:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
Stephen Booth Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Galgate, Lancaster Posts: 590 Party: None	Separate military hospitals In the old days they had proper separate military hospitals, and each of the armed services had doctors and nurses in separated corps. This is how it should be. These places seem to have all been closed down and either pulled down or left to rot. It is shameful. It is about time that people started to take this war against terror seriously and to treat it as a war. __________________ Britain Out of Europe Now !

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10-08-2008, 10:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
kernow Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,014	Well done Bluemerle! I totally agree!

17-08-2008, 01:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
Gregory Lauder-Frost Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: U.K. Posts: 1,389 Party: UKIP	There used to be an excellent military hospital on Millbank, SW1. It was closed down in the past decade. Is there any substantive difference between the three parties at Westminster on issues such as this?