The bombings and shootings in Norway over the weekend have brought into sharp relief the differences in the broad spectrum of nationalism between those who follow the Geert Wilders type pro-Israel and anti Muslim liberal civic nationalism and those who strongly detest everything that this stands for.
Up until these attacks the usual approach was that the Geert Wilders civic nationalists would call the other nationalists extremist and suggest they stood for unpaletable and unpleasant views. They would say they are Nazi and they cannot be popular or electable.
What we are seeing now is that it is really those who are most influenced by the kind of brainwashing coming from the mainstream media on the "right" such as the Daily Mail who are more likely to be a terror threat. And they are entirely divorced from many of those who claim, as do the socialists in Norway who were so cruelly shot down, that the real problem lies with Israel/Zionism and far less so with Muslims/Islam.
The shooter is of a similar mind to John Cain type republicans but with confusing liking of homosexuals added - so this confuses American conservatives.
The civic nationalists who post on this forum, who wish to emulate the politics of Geert Wilders, presumably find nothing in the manifesto or philosophy of the Norwegian killer that they disagree with - other than any advocation of violence perhaps.
Or do they find profound differences? I wonder this.
A fishing exercise if I ever saw one. Send your name and Address directly to MI5 rather than post here.
Heres what I wonder...
Whether or not you are a journalist trying to illicit some foolish quotes from BNP types for an opportunist smear story you are writing.
Liberals: People who make a virtue of stupidity and weakness, because they are stupid and weak.
If you are ashamed that you agree with this terrorist then you will find many nationalists on here who very much disagree with all that he stands for. Which are the ones who bring nationalism into disrepute? Is it the ones who hate Zionism or is it the ones who love Zionism and think only Muslims are evil?
So you love Zionism Innocent?
It must be Julian who thinks he can get caught out if he tells how he agrees with the terrorist's ideas. You Georgeman, do you think Anders had a manifesto you subscribe to as well?
Only a fool or a sociopath would defend such a person, or their ideas, in the wake of such a shocking incident.
It gives me satisfaction to hear that cognitive dissonance hurts.
'Innocentnewborn'
I doubt very much if you've read his manifesto properly yet, if at all, never mind had time to digest it. until you do this you do not know his 'ideas' at all
I would suggest that what you are talking of is a bunch of half-baked suppositions and gossip, all formed into soundbites.
Do your homework first before pretending to have some familiarity.
I have no idea what his ideas are....so I am keeping out of this
Sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.
~ Lewis Carroll
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