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    Have you been keeping an eye on the threads at the Telegraph? There's an interesting development. Where they touch upon The Great Question in any way, the main opinion pieces and comment blogs are attracting an astonishingly outspoken commentariat. It's as though the commentariat of this section of BDF, excepting the trolls of course, has camped at Canary Wharf and is furiously pumping a very ethnocentric brand of Spanish Fly into the scrotums of the effete and self-estranged middle-class Tory journalists.

    Just in the last week pieces by Charles Moore (three of them), Peter Oborne, Ed West, Jenny McCarthy, and George Pitcher have been utterly savaged, with commenter after commenter making absolutely plain the profound gap between the sensibilities of Establishment journalism and their rage at what has been done by that Establishment to this country. The blue touch paper has mostly been Islam, and especially one (especially obnoxious) Islamic warrior, "Baroness" Sayeeda Hussain Warsi, the current co-chairman of the Conservative Party.

    If it sticks - and at least one rumbunctious thread had been disappeared by the mods over the last fortnight - it marks quite a dramatic turn towards free speech and the discourse of nationalism. If it sticks, it will be interesting to see if the journalistic tone begins to respond.

    It has been evident for a very long time that a political shift wrought in the interests of the people is different to a shift generated by a minority interest in that the discourse of the former has to be formulated before anything else can happen, whereas unwanted Marxist or Establishment political shifts are coerced on the people, and the semiotics of obedience follow on. It is, therefore, a prerequisite to our political progress that we obtain control of public discourse, so making our analysis, our language, our goal the analysis, language and goal of the voters.

    The Telegraph threads show this process in action. Of course, the editors could become overly nervous and take down more and more threads. But their commercial interests dictate otherwise, and they are losing money - they can't afford to ignore their commercial interests.

    I imagine a good number of us here already frequent the Telegraph threads. But should we consider a more conscious and structured assault on every relevant thread, there and elsewhere? This section could serve for rallying calls. The insane left will understand that we are speaking our truth, which is verboten by them. They can't argue principle. They can't pretend to be us and post illegal material, because we will reply with posts exposing them and asking for the offending item to be taken down. They can't do anything.

    This is activism of the mind. We are better at it than anyone else. In so much as we can, we should play as a team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Palfrey View Post
    I imagine a good number of us here already frequent the Telegraph threads. But should we consider a more conscious and structured assault on every relevant thread, there and elsewhere? This section could serve for rallying calls. The insane left will understand that we are speaking our truth, which is verboten by them. They can't argue principle. They can't pretend to be us and post illegal material, because we will reply with posts exposing them and asking for the offending item to be taken down. They can't do anything.

    This is activism of the mind. We are better at it than anyone else. In so much as we can, we should play as a team.
    I've been known to post comments there which get a good-ish number of recommendations, so an interesting idea.

    Actually even in the Indy (particularly the obnoxious Alibhai Brown) and Grauniad more than a few comments hit home.

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    I've been known to post comments there which get a good-ish number of recommendations, so an interesting idea.

    Actually even in the Indy (particularly the obnoxious Alibhai Brown) and Grauniad more than a few comments hit home.
    Up to a couple of years ago CiF offered the opportunity to test and perfect discourse against competent left-wing academics. But I think the Labour Party's long decline and final defeat under Gordon Brown must have sickened at heart a lot of these people, and one rarely encounters an intelligent defence of the status quo any more. CiF is becoming an island of liberal bigotry, and I don't bother about it much now. Many others do, and it is very amusing to watch the totals for their recommends rocketing skyward. Political correctness is so bloody unloved.

    The Indy never did compare intellectually, of course. But it published Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, and her unbelievably sniffy South-Asian racism guaranteed a pitch battle every time. I don't think the Indy editor, who is obviously a man of extreme fastidiousness in his political sensibilities, could bear the sight of poor YAZ being rudely assaulted any longer, and now none of her articles are published with the comments activated.

    The Times, for what it's worth, is locked in the icy fastness of its paywall. They've lost 90% of their readership. The Daily Mail is too low-brow, really, and pre-moderated to death. One can have some fun at Peter Hitchens' expense when he pushes the usual smear tactic against the BNP. But over the last year or two he seems to have grown more defensive, or too vain and cowardly, to let pass direct hits on his use of language and his pomposity in general.

    The Express, Sun/NoW, Mirror/People I've never bothered with. Nor the BBC. But each to his own. The point is that there may be a window of opportunity opening for us to be heard, and we have have to speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleet Nine View Post
    I've been known to post comments there which get a good-ish number of recommendations, so an interesting idea.

    Actually even in the Indy (particularly the obnoxious Alibhai Brown) and Grauniad more than a few comments hit home.
    We must all follow the rules. Make a logical argued case. Don't rant even if you feel like it. Very little gets removed by the DT moderators but that's not an excuse for giving a bad impression. The Mail and Standard comments are now also surprisingly frank.

    Let's celebrate! The media are coming round to our way of thinking even if they don't encourage action. This is a huge change from a decade ago.

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    There's one such article in the mail right now

    White children in Birmingham 'a minority' this year because of immigration

    Read more: White children in Birmingham 'a minority' this year because of immigration | Mail Online

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Palfrey View Post

    I imagine a good number of us here already frequent the Telegraph threads. But should we consider a more conscious and structured assault on every relevant thread, there and elsewhere? This section could serve for rallying calls. The insane left will understand that we are speaking our truth, which is verboten by them. They can't argue principle. They can't pretend to be us and post illegal material, because we will reply with posts exposing them and asking for the offending item to be taken down. They can't do anything.

    This is activism of the mind. We are better at it than anyone else. In so much as we can, we should play as a team.
    Could you please define for me 'left-wing'.

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    In today's breaking nationalist news, Henry, that prince-philosopher, warrior poet, fount of the founding principles of nationalism (new) is taking his campaign for the preservation of English genes from the virtual world of a poorly designed, barely visited, fantasist website and nationalist forum sub-sections, in to the real world of.....the Telegraph's comments.
    Once nationalist discourse is made visible to Toryland, they shall pour out of their manors and clubs, march on Westminster and overthrow the establishment. A golden dawn for British nationalism shall ensue and the guarantee of the existence of English genes in perpetuity shall then be achieved, under the benign eye of the leader-in-waiting, who shall ascend the throne.
    Hail! you heard it here first.
    Dudes where's my country?

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    Could you please define for me 'left-wing'.
    (i) Before or after the first Judaisation (economic Marxism)? And, if after ...

    (ii) Before or after the second Judaisation (the cultural one)?

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    Travel advisory:

    If you are jewish living in Britain, start planning your aliyah today!

    Go now, before Henry makes you.
    Dudes where's my country?

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    In today's breaking nationalist news, MiNiMe has managed to unstick her incredibly wide behind from the p*ss stained floral sofa at Lancaster Unity HQ.
    A spokesperson for LU has described the historical event as "nothing short of a miracle"...

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