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    Yet when I remembered, in the 70s, 80s and early 90s, corporal punishment haven't existed then, yet students succeed and became successful in their job careers, especially when it came to the IT industry.
    In the 1970s and early 1980s corporal punishment was enacted (stopped in 1987). As for those educated subsequent to the early 1980s, they accomplished a lot less in academic terms, and gradually children have become less prepared to endure fully-fledged work. In the 1950s, academic achievements were at an all time high; corporal punishment was a disciplinary routine for delinquents then. This is a very intriguing article, yet again supporting the BNP's policies. Teachers: Bring back the cane to restore order in schools - Telegraph

    Japanese Children are cruel and will always bully each other. Even back then, before world war II, Osamu Tezuka [Manga Artist of Astro Boy] was constantly bullied for \"his skinny build, small stature and wavy hair, a genetic trait which appears in 3% of the Japanese population\". The Japanese have a habit of bulling others for differences.
    Yes, but as the article clearly inscribed, bullying has become rife after the consequential abolishment of corporal punishment in Japanese schools. It may have existed hitherto, but not as contumely as now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Consider Dudley View Post
    So you would have an initial situation where 5 and 6 years olds would be on the receiving end of corporal punishment, but secondary school kids would not?
    No, we would enforce corporal punishment for all ages right away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Consider Dudley View Post
    The thought of a teacher hitting my child makes me quite angry actually.
    If your child misbehaves, he/she should be dealt with through strong, effective discipline.

    Quote Originally Posted by Consider Dudley View Post
    I doubt corporal punishment would be a BNP vote winner.
    Ah yes. Since you don't advocate it, it must be a vote loser.
    Last edited by Britt Andrew Prowd; 27-02-2010 at 05:43 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Britt Andrew Prowd View Post
    Yes, but when you get to the inner-london schools where the kids simply refuse to serve their punishments and simply walk away. What do you suggest for them?
    The same I can say "What would you do if you carry out corporal punishment, they don't take any **** and give you a bloody nose". Either way, it's bound to be a faliure unless you bring up children with one of the two discipline from primary school age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joely View Post
    In the 1970s and early 1980s corporal punishment was enacted (stopped in 1987). As for those educated subsequent to the early 1980s, they accomplished a lot less in academic terms, and gradually children have become less prepared to endure fully-fledged work.
    Yet my mother have no corporal punishment in her school [so I assume some schools stopped this, maybe as a test of some sort] and yet, her classroom was very orderly.

    Yes, but as the article clearly inscribed, bullying has become rife after the consequential abolishment of corporal punishment in Japanese schools. It may have existed hitherto, but not as contumely as now.
    Touché.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono Mizaki View Post
    The same I can say "What would you do if you carry out corporal punishment, they don't take any **** and give you a bloody nose".
    I'd give them both a bloody nose and a dead arm. Simple.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono Mizaki View Post
    Either way, it's bound to be a faliure unless you bring up children with one of the two discipline from primary school age.
    Err, no. I don't think corporal punishment is 'bound to be a failure'. It was successful in the past and without it, education standards have plummeted.

    Perhaps you could answer the question:

    When you get to the inner-london schools where the kids simply refuse to serve their punishments and simply walk away. What do you suggest for them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Britt Andrew Prowd View Post
    No, we would enforce corporal punishment for all ages right away.
    Oh lord, good luck with that! I'm waiting in anticipation to how will that work in high school!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono Mizaki View Post
    Oh lord, good luck with that! I'm waiting in anticipation to how will that work in high school!
    See my previous comment which answered your question.
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    Yet my mother have no corporal punishment in her school [so I assume some schools stopped this, maybe as a test of some sort] and yet, her classroom was very orderly.
    Not every child is a juvenile today, and not every classroom is contumely filled with foreboding. It is just that a lot more classrooms are packed to the brim and proper with disorderly behaviour, and a lot more children are delinquents, than prior to the abolishment of corporal punishment. If it were to be reintroduced, classroom disruption would collapse in numerical terms.

    If your mother went to a prestigious school, or one situated in an area with an enlightening community cohesion, of course her classroom would have been orderly. The case is that a lot of schools are uncontrollable today, more so than before, and the ever growing tide of academic failure needs to be curbed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Britt Andrew Prowd View Post
    I'd give them both a bloody nose and a dead arm. Simple.
    Yep, I say good luck with that. And when they gang up on you, as it could be 5:1, I'll definitely give you all the luck you need.

    Err, no. I don't think corporal punishment is 'bound to be a failure'. It was successful in the past and without it, education standards have plummeted.
    Whilst we all like to compare the past and other countries to our present standards of education, the problem is: different time for different measures. What might have succeed in the past may not succeed now, unless you're planning on retooling Corporal Punishment to make it succeed.

    Perhaps you could answer the question:
    Simple, let him be, phone his parents and then I will introduce a fine for their parents, in which they have to pay, will consider about punishing their child. And I'll use the money to fund the school's projects. And then when the child comes back, I'll see about forcing this child to do those community services I asked him/her to.

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